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Posted 22 July 2009 - 08:19 AM

:grin2: :smiley: :-P a little bit of sense being rolled around...some day they'll quit digging in their heels on this issue...legalize it and tax it...same as alcohol...and same as alcohol...some will partake and some won't

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Is Marijuana the Answer to California's Budget Woes?

By TOM MCNICHOL/SAN FRANCISCO Tom Mcnichol/san Francisco – 1 hr 36 mins ago
Proponents of marijuana legalization have advanced plenty of arguments in support of their drug of choice - that marijuana is less dangerous than legal substances like cigarettes and alcohol; that pot has legitimate medical uses; that the money spent prosecuting marijuana offenses would be better used on more pressing public concerns.


While 13 states permit the limited sale of marijuana for medical use, and polls show a steady increase in the number of Americans who favor legalization, federal law still bans the cultivation, sale, or possession of marijuana. In fact, the feds still classify marijuana as a Schedule I drug, one that has no "currently accepted medical use" in the United States.


But supporters of legalization may have been handed their most convincing argument yet: the bummer economy. Advocates argue that if state or local governments could collect a tax on even a fraction of pot sales, it would help rescue cash-strapped communities. Not surprisingly, the idea is getting traction in California, home to both the nation"s largest supply of domestically grown marijuana (worth a estimated $14 billion a year) and to the country"s biggest state budget deficit (more than $26 billion).


On Monday, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and the California legislative leaders a tentative budget agreement to plug the state's deficit, but it would involve making sweeping cuts in education and health services, as well as taking billions from county governments. Democratic state assemblyman Tom Ammiano has introduced legislation that would let California regulate and tax the sale of marijuana. The state's proposed $50 an ounce pot tax would bring in about $1.3 billion a year in additional revenue. Ammiano"s bill was shelved this session but he expects to introduce a revised bill early next year.


If the state legislature doesn"t act, perhaps California voters will. One group is preparing to place a statewide initiative for the November 2010 ballot that would regulate and tax the sale of marijuana for Californians 21 years of age and older. Tellingly, the group spearheading the measure calls itself TaxCannabis2010.org, stressing the revenue advantages of marijuana legalization. The group hopes to collect the required 650,000 voter signatures by January to place the measure on the November 2010 ballot.


"There"s no doubt that the ground is shifting on marijuana," says Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance, which promotes alternatives to the war on drugs. "The discussion about regulating and taxing marijuana now has an air of legitimacy to it that it didn"t quite have before. And the economy has given the issue a real turbo charge."


The legalization effort is getting serious consideration from surprising quarters. In May, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger publicly called for a large-scale study to determine whether to legalize and tax marijuana.


"I think it"s time for a debate," the governor said at a news conference. "I think we ought to study very carefully what other countries are doing that have legalized marijuana and other drugs."


In California, medical marijuana sales are already taxed, and some communities are looking for ways to get a bigger slice of the pot pie. Residents Oakland are currently voting in a mail-in special election that includes a measure which would make the city the first in the country to establish a new tax rate for medical marijuana businesses. If the measure passes, Oakland marijuana dispensaries, which are now charged at the general tax rate of $1.20 per $1,000 in receipts, would see that rate raised to $18 per $1,000.


A Field Poll conducted in California this spring showed 56% of the state"s registered voters in support of legalizing and taxing marijuana as a way of offsetting some of the budget deficit. Several national polls have shown that more than 45% of American adults are open to legalizing pot, about double the support a decade ago.


Even the most ardent marijuana advocates aren"t expecting nationwide legalization anytime soon. Instead, any action is likely to come on the state and local level. For now, all eyes are on cash-strapped California, where high taxes could take on an entirely new meaning.


source: Yahoo News-Time Magazine
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Posted 22 July 2009 - 11:01 AM

Smokem if ya gottem  :haha: :haha:

You know, people are much too asinine to let people they don't even know, and ill probably never see, or even come in contact with do what they want to do.    So would the millions worth of revenue from smoke fix things ? Nah, the money would just end up in another slush fund for political monkey's play toys and favors. 
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Posted 22 July 2009 - 11:48 AM

very true...but it would be a beginning to setting it right...

clear out our prisons and make room for actual criminals...

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Posted 22 July 2009 - 02:27 PM

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very true...but it would be a beginning to setting it right...

clear out our prisons and make room for actual criminals...

Well that's two different things. The prison systems would go broke w/o all the finacing for the prisoners for one thing, look for money elsewhere,  ( our pockets, new laws that place us there ect...) then there would be 10's of thousands homeless , which were previously wards of the state. If they could get a release w/o having someplace to stay.



Who knows, what a mess. I'm simply pointing out a couple of the most obvious issues with legalizing weed.
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Posted 22 July 2009 - 11:00 PM

weed is the answer to everything, even bill hicks says so.  If you want an instantly better america/world legalize marijuana
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Posted 22 July 2009 - 11:24 PM

Not sure what to say, I used to really be for it. Now adays not really sure. I bet within a few pages on this thread I will though.  :evil6:
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Posted 23 July 2009 - 10:39 AM

In every country around the world, the people smoke the herb
Our mission is absurd, but people want it
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Posted 23 July 2009 - 11:00 AM

The answer is simple! NO :police:
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Posted 23 July 2009 - 11:05 AM

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very true...but it would be a beginning to setting it right...

clear out our prisons and make room for actual criminals...

:iamwithstupid: Why cant people understand that controlling other peoples actions is never going to happen. The most we can hope for is to punish those who do direct harm to other people. Once we get rid of people that want their moral code imposed on others by force maybe this will improve. I can only hope.

Of course this country was founded to escape having the moral code and beliefs of the religious majority forced on the average person. Nobody today seems to even be able to understand that..... They talk about The Founders and Patriots but yet they want people ruled like they were in England before the trip to America.  :2funny: :2funny: :uglystupid2: :uglystupid2: I realize all you can do is laugh.  :2funny: :2funny:
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Posted 23 July 2009 - 02:48 PM

Most rules are necessary to not have havoc.  :2funny: Otherwise I can go in and take what I want from my neighbor anytime I want. Good looking daughters included.  :wink:
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Posted 23 July 2009 - 03:35 PM

In my opinion.. Without the rules of men and God.......... We are simply lost!
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Posted 24 July 2009 - 12:34 AM

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Most rules are necessary to not have havoc.  :2funny: Otherwise I can go in and take what I want from my neighbor anytime I want. Good looking daughters included.  :wink:


Funny how criminalizing marijuana causes havoc all over the world not to mention other drugs that are illegal
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Posted 24 July 2009 - 08:14 PM

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Funny how criminalizing marijuana causes havoc all over the world not to mention other drugs that are illegal
Funny how others try to twist others words.  :2funny: :2funny: See Mr politician, I never said those words at all.  :smiley:
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Posted 24 July 2009 - 10:33 PM

no twisting just stating a fact.
didnt mean to twist
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