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« on: January 03, 2006, 09:46:30 PM »

Okay this is really a two part question there is a isp offering a 2 week free trial for there service the Addy is http://www.eskimo.com/newuser.html I believe they are located in WA  <---- ( Near you ROM-DOS )
I signed up for it because I can use DUN instead of using NetZero's heavy software bogging me down
Well low and behold I still connect at 46 and I receive the same d/l - upload speeds with both services. Guess I was thinking I'd see at least a small improvement with the Eskimo service but I see none at all any help would be great thanks.

Part 2: I have access to a FREE 1years subscription available to renew over & over. To the following: eTrust PestPatrol ( any good ?), Symantec and all their software, McAfee and all there software and Trend Micro all software.
(Don't worry not illegal)

I'm not looking for an AntiVirus for I use AVG
Which gives the best protection against attacks Symantec or  McAfee?
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2006, 12:33:02 AM »

boywonder ;I don't really know anything about Eskimo maybe ROM_DOS does if I lived in the Washington area I would try nocharge like he has.It isn't available to me in Texas.I use nts-online.net it's Ok but could be better.My best connect speed 46 usually 41 or 42 but this is good since I am 26500 feet from the telco.I can use DUN which allows me to tweak or I wouldn't get the speed I do.My ISP says I should only get about 28 at this distance.So 46 is good for a lot of dial-up .
On the second question I use AVG too.I use Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Personal & Spybot S&D for spyware.I use Agnitum Outpost firewall.I also use SpywareBlaster.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2006, 12:41:34 AM »

boywonder ~ Why are you sticking with Dial-Up?
. . .is it because the simple things in life, like hunting, fishing, camping and reading Harry Potter books don't seem as challenging(just more relaxing) as a great game of poker or trying to speed up your dial-up connection? j/k ~ lol

There might be alot of reasons your not connecting faster~ but at least we know it's consistent ~ find the location of your telephone company switching office here;
http://www.testmy.net/forum/index.php?topic=9597.msg95148#msg95148

Have you ever updated the drivers for your modem?

Are you using CableNut Adjuster? . . .if so, what settings are you using? . . .if not ~ start! [I know CableNut has alot to do with the speeds I get ~ without it I'm connecting about like you are, so I would think playing with the settings in it would/could give you the boost you might be looking for.]


oh, Trend Micro by far is the best! Norton and McDaffee suck and really bug the system down, worst than NetZero could never think of. lol
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2006, 11:09:46 AM »

boywonder ~ Why are you sticking with Dial-Up?
. . .is it because the simple things in life, like hunting, fishing, camping and reading Harry Potter books don't seem as challenging(just more relaxing) as a great game of poker or trying to speed up your dial-up connection? j/k ~ lol


Who doesn't like Harry PotHead? Very Happy I see you've checked out my-space should come around and play some cards sometime. Perhaps help me pay for a satellite connection cool

While on the subject about satellite I was getting connect speeds of 45 till I went around unplugging phone cords and such and found that my satellite box was also plugged into a phone jack popped that baby out scrambled to the comp. dialed up and it boosted my speed to 46 not much difference but inch by inch it's a cinch right?

My modem driver is updated although not really up-to-date. Don't believe it is my modem I went out and bought 2 USR modems recently one internal the other external both lowered my connect speeds for some reason down to 36 and 33 sometimes even lower. So I re-turned them and got my $change$ back.

My current CableNut settings are your recommend ones but I get hammered with a ton of errors that I know has to be slowing me down somewhat if not alot. w/o them I do not receive any errors  any suggestions?

As for my distance from me to my switching office the site came up saying unknown lol must be pretty darn far I'll give them a call in a bit and see what they say

After looking over the software I may d/l through Trend I'm limited on what I may get. To bad the firewall is one of those limitations.
So I went with McAfee figured it would be better than Symantec. If it's free for a year and I can renew it over again for free why not?
If not I can always switch over

Alright time for me to go check my traps lol mite b havin possum stew fer lunch u all err welcome to come on over ya her
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2006, 01:30:08 PM »

Here is my latest d/l results with being connected at 45.2

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 39 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB)
Download Speed is:: 5 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (server2)
Test Time:: Wed Jan 04 2006 14:15:32 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Bottom Line:: 1X faster than 56K 1MB download in 204.8 sec
Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 5.23 % of your hosts average (Level3.net) Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-CQTGFDZ54

CableNut settings:

DefaultReceiveWindow = 16384
DefaultSendWindow = 8192
DisableAddressSharing = 1
InitialLargeBufferCount = 20
InitialMediumBufferCount = 48
InitialSmallBufferCount = 64
LargeBufferSize = 81920
MaxFastTransmit = 64000
MediumBufferSize = 15040
PriorityBoost = 0
SmallBufferSize = 1280
TransmitWorker = 32
FastSendDatagramThreshold = 1024
EnableFastRouteLookup = 1
EnablePMTUDiscovery = 1
IgnorePushBitOnReceives = 0
GlobalMaxTcpWindowSize = 17520
MaxFreeTcbs = 8000
MaxHashTableSize = 16384
MaxNormLookupMemory = 5000000
SackOpts = 1
SynAttackProtect = 1
Tcp1323Opts = 0
TcpLogLevel = 1
MaxDupAcks = 2
TcpMaxHalfOpen = 100
TcpMaxHalfOpenRetried = 80
TcpRecvSegmentSize = 1460
TcpSendSegmentSize = 1460
TcpTimedWaitDelay = 30
TcpUseRFC1122UrgentPointer = 0
TcpWindowSize = 17520
MaxConnectionsPer1_0Server = 10
MaxConnectionsPerServer = 8
DefaultTTL = 128
DisableUserTOSSetting = 0
TcpMaxDataRetransmissions = 6
DefaultTOSValue = 240

MTU 
1500

No errors this time around  commpression sent 21% rec. 3%
I added 3 comas in front of the number to be dialed not sure if that helped any
BTW how can I post a pic of my settings? Would be more convenient other than typing it all out
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2006, 02:10:09 PM »

Just got off the tele ready for this one I am 32,500 and some odd feet away from my telco with that distance I should be very pleased with my connect speeds I guess blahh lol.

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 40 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB)
Download Speed is:: 5 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (server2)
Test Time:: Wed Jan 04 2006 15:12:20 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Bottom Line:: 1X faster than 56K 1MB download in 204.8 sec
Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 5.38 % of your hosts average (Level3.net)
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-GM0FKDEPH

Connected this time at 46 it is getting close to peak time should wait and see what I get later tonight
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2006, 02:52:36 PM »

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 133 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 579 kB)
Download Speed is:: 16 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (server2)
Test Time:: Wed Jan 4 12:33:44 PST 2006
Bottom Line:: 2X faster than 56K 1MB download in 64 sec
Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 62.2 % faster than the average for host (nocharge.com)
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-MJ8NYC0BU


boywonder ~ [did you try the IRQ Priorty tweak?]
right click My Computer > Properties > under Hardware Tab
open Device Manager > click on View and Resourses by type
click on Interrupt request (IRQ)
find which IRQ## is assigned to your modem

goto Start > Run type regedit and goto the PriorityControl
branch of  local_machine and what ever IRQ## is given to your modem ~
create a new value name dword  Irq##Priority
and modify the value data = 1 hexadecimal base

It should end up looking like this with the ## being
the number of your modems IRQ

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control
\PriorityControl

Irq##Priority      REG_DWORD      0x00000001 (1)

you mize well create and add;
 
Win32PrioritySeparation     REG_DWORD    26 (hexadecimal) (38)

In CableNut, try setting PriorityBoost = 1

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boywonder ~ if you want to post a screen shot, just hit your Print Screen button(usually right of F12 button), that will capture a full screen shot of your DeskTop.  If you just want to capture a shot of a program window, hold Alt + Print Screen.[make sure the window is in the forefront(active)]
Now goto (open)Windows Paint(program) and hit Ctrl + V, the shot should appear in Paint now, choose Save As (name it somethin', and file type = .jpg) and save to Desktop (or an image folder),
then when you post ~ goto Additional Options and Attach: and Browse for image and upload.

like this;
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2006, 04:20:37 PM »


Who doesn't like Harry PotHead? Very Happy I see you've checked out my-space should come around and play some cards sometime. Perhaps help me pay for a satellite connection cool
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2006, 06:28:41 PM »

 boywonder ;Yeah at that distance you are probably getting the best speed you are going to.
Still tweaking what you can helps.Try thr IRQ tweak ROM_DOS posted if you haven't.One of the problems with distance is the phone company puts load coils on the line to improve voice quality.Voice quality is their main goal not data transmission each load coil slows your speed some at the distance you are you probably have 4 on your line.At further distances I understand they add a range extender these are really supposed to be data killers I have never had one on my line so I don't know if they do.What dial-up users at long distances from the telco need are data only lines not meant to carry voice..As far as I know telephone companies don't offer these.
At least to dial-up this would be simular to DSL or ISDN I think.
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2006, 12:38:14 AM »

Hey D.U.K.E ~ this might seem like the craziest question, yet,
but do you think it's possible I might be piggybacking a dedicated line, like some kind of resonance phase lock loop, allowing me to jump lines somewhere? . . .'cause I swear ~ my speeds look alot like that might be what's going on, sometimes!  ~ Strange, I know ~ but...?

[I know this might be a little off topic, but it's our forum ~ so who's gonna mess with us?] lol
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2006, 04:11:47 PM »

ROM-DOS : I don't know but I guess that would be possible.A dedicated data only line should give you DSL type speed if your modem could send it that fast.I really haven't researched ISDN much I guess I need to a little anyway.
I'm assuming that your PC is on a voice line?So how does your phone sound on this line?If its good & clear then its probably on a voice line or you are really close to the telco.
I suspect you are close to the telco or a real good remote terminal.From there I bet your phone company uses FIOS so once your data gets there it is speeded up by this.Thats my theory for the speed you get .If it is this way basically it is a short POTS loop connected to FIOS.
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2006, 06:10:23 PM »

cholla ~ I called my telco ~ QWest ~ and after over 25 minutes of listening to ". . .your time is valuable to us, thank you for holding. . ." and one customer service rep and one supervisor later, ~ all they would tell me is that I'm really close ~ I qualify for a 7MB DSL line ~ their highest ~ (16,000 ft. is the max distance to get a 256KB DSL connection.)

. . .So, I must be sitting right on top of it!  I live in Lacey, WA., a barb town of the state capital ~ I know there are alot of telecom companies around me, but when it comes to any QWest offices ~ the nearest is in Seattle ~ 70 some miles away!  They won't tell me how many feet away I am. . .

I might just check out switching to that DSL connect w/ QWest, after I do all the up-grades I want to do to my system, first.
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2006, 06:18:39 PM »

i think you've done it. all that poking away at your dialup and fiddling with their hardware has led them to arrange for you to get dsl just to stop your meddling. congrats.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2006, 06:31:19 PM »

God this company rips people off even worser that AOL

$20 A MONTH AND A SESSION LIMIT GOD THAT SUCKS evil
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2006, 06:34:48 PM »

ROM-DOS :Sounds like QWest gave you the run around.They should have been able to tell you  the loop legnth no problem.They probably lease their lines or loops from the main phone company in your town Lacey so maybe you could find out from them.They are probably the CO you are close to.Office is really a misnomer it really should be called the central terminal.I would have asked exactly why they couldn't tell me or don't you know the legnth of your lines.
Anyway what distance does the dslreports link show your distance to be?
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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2006, 06:48:10 PM »

funny thing was ~ when I asked the rep where she was, she said IOWA ~ lol
. . .believe me, I tried every approach to get them to give me some distance.

QWest bought out US WEST or something like that a few years back.  US WEST's office was a few miles up the road, next to the cemetary ~ now it's part of it ~ lol

. . .the dslreports link gives me an address, which is a few blocks away ~ I'll go look for the address and see what it 'really' is ~ lol
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2006, 02:01:38 AM »

ROM-DOS : At dslreports there is a link in the CO finder called CO Distance this will take you to a page where you put in your zip code address  & phone number.Then press the next  button & it will calculate your line distance.I put a screenshot of the page that has the distance calculation for my line.My problem with the calculator is it shows my distance for  Convad dsl at 16429 feet.SBC shows mine at 26500 they are my phone company so I believe they are correct.
This is a link to the distance calculator it may be the best you can get for now.
http://www.dslreports.com/prequal/distance
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2006, 02:08:19 AM »

Provider Distance = 5179 feet LACYWA01 ~ lol
. . .like I said, I must be sitting right on top of them!
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2006, 02:21:06 AM »

ROM-DOS ;Less than a mile not bad That means you don't have any load coils to go through.It should be all copper telephone cable to the telco.
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2006, 02:28:18 AM »

ROM-DOS ;Less than a mile not bad That means you don't have any load coils to go through.It should be all copper telephone cable to the telco.

. . .should I go get a DSL modem and see if I can 'resonance' jump to it ~ lol
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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2006, 03:05:38 AM »

ROM-DOS  ;You could try but I doubt it will work.
I  used the CO finder for Lacey I didd a screen shot with Google maps of the area the  Qwest CO is supposed to be in Lacey 1311 College SE is the address listed.
 
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2006, 06:14:43 AM »

Right on love the Harry Potter pic  Very Happy

I have the modem irq tweak applied and pretty much every other tweak and reg edit, ROM/Cholla have reccomended in their previous topics.
I was wondering if there were a way I can do something in my phone box outside my home that would change my line from Voice to Data?

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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2006, 07:34:57 AM »

I did a line test in hyperterminal here are the results im unsure how to read it though.

DIAG <2A4D3263 0=10>
DIAG <2A4D3263 1=8 2=0 3=0>
DIAG <2A4D3263 10=14 11=0D 12=40>
DIAG <2A4D3263 17=0000>
DIAG <2A4D3263 20=FF 22=0C80 24=725>
DIAG <2A4D3263 21=FF 23=1F40 25=000>
DIAG <2A4D3263 26=5DC0 34=5DC0>
DIAG <2A4D3263 27=B64A 35=B64A>
DIAG <2A4D3263 31=00 32=00 33=00>
DIAG <2A4D3263 40=1 41=080 42=00 43=00>
DIAG <2A4D3263 44=3 45=800>
DIAG <2A4D3263 50=2 51=2>
DIAG <2A4D3263 52=00000000 54=0>
DIAG <2A4D3263 53=00000062 55=0>
DIAG <2A4D3263 56=00000000 58=0000>
DIAG <2A4D3263 57=00000002 59=0000>
DIAG <2A4D3263 61=00>
DIAG <2A4D3263 60=3C>
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2006, 07:52:57 AM »

God this company rips people off even worser that AOL

$20 A MONTH AND A SESSION LIMIT GOD THAT SUCKS evil

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With Eskimo I can use DUN and it's free for 2 weeks no credit card, check or such has to be givin out during init. sign up. Infact they don't even accept credit cards if after the 2 week trial you like there service a check or money order must be sent out otherwise the user/pass become invalid.
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2006, 09:40:43 AM »

I wouldn't be able to answer much about dial up, but as far as security, I would stay away from any ETrust products. Considering the EZ Armor package retails at 99.00$ US I'd say its paying customers are gettng ripped off. Many ISP offer it for free, mostly likely because they were the lowest bidder. As far as Spyware removal, I'd go with something like Spybot or Adaware.
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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2006, 02:51:41 PM »

ROM-DOS  ;You could try but I doubt it will work.
I  used the CO finder for Lacey I didd a screen shot with Google maps of the area the  Qwest CO is supposed to be in Lacey 1311 College SE is the address listed.
 


Found it cholla, it's hidden behind some bushes in a residentual neighborhood, big big yellowish block house w/ big big Air Conditioning in-take and out-take duck/vents and a couple of QWest service trucks.  The enterance is the same as the one going to Brooks Park ~ it's exactly two blocks due East of me ~ .7 miles.   . . .would have never noticed it before ~ lol ~ but it's the biggest (local) switching station I've ever seen!  It still has a US WEST sticker on it's mailbox.
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2006, 03:22:44 PM »

ROM-DOS ;So you are practically sitting on top of it.I wonder if it does have FIOS out & in to it.
If it does I would think this would speed data up even if it uses a copper line to & from you.There isn't much information on how this affects dial-up.But it should make data in & out of the terminal fast so the bottleneck is mostly in the copper line & 56K modem.Good to know where it is .Knock on the door & ask for a tour.The worst they can say is no.
 boywonder;Those are modem diagnostics I used to have some info on interpreting it but I couldn't find it.Some more commands you can try from hyperterminal are:
AT#UG
AT#UD
AT&V1
AT%L
AT%Q
ATY11
All of them may not work depending on the modem.
On the other question : No there is nothing you can do to the phone box outside to change from voice to data.This would have to be done by the phone company because the change is not in the box but along the line or loop to the telco.About all you can do at the box (NDI) is make sure it is grounded well & there is no corrosion on its terminals.If you can use good quality cable to your PC jack  & your other phone jacks for that matter.Like a CAT3 or CAT5 twisted pair phone cable.These help lower line noise & other EMI picked up by the cable.
One other hint is make sure your modem is the only thing plugged into its jack or module.Your PC or modem may let you plug a phone into it but don't do that.Plug a remote phone into another jack in the house & use that.
I will see if I can find some info on the diagnostics.
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