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« on: January 15, 2006, 07:11:33 PM »

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 37 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB)
Download Speed is:: 5 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (server2)
Test Time:: Sun Jan 15 2006 20:00:00 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Bottom Line:: 1X faster than 56K 1MB download in 204.8 sec
Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 0.77 % of your hosts average (aol.com)
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-5VKHJ4D2L



::::::::::.. Upload Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 25 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB)
Upload Speed is:: 3 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (server2)
Test Time:: Sun Jan 15 2006 20:08:44 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Bottom Line:: 0X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 341.33 sec
Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 9.69 % of your hosts average (aol.com)
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-6UBMS153L

I have compuserve i have 1 gig of ram 2.2GHz amd 64 processer if it helps.Would it help if i bought a new phone line? yeah i know alot about computers just not about 56k lol.I already went though all the services ROM said to do.I dident do the system.ini crap but I dont think it would improve my connect strength
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2006, 08:51:22 PM »

DMN, welcome to the forum.

I would take a look through the following topics.  Lots of reading, but a lot of hard work and excellent information has been put into these.  ROM-DOS has his dial-up tweaked an insane amount.  If you put in the time and effort, I'm certain you will see results.

http://www.testmy.net/forum/index.php?topic=9597.0
http://www.testmy.net/forum/index.php?topic=9452.0
http://www.testmy.net/forum/index.php?topic=9723.0
http://www.testmy.net/forum/index.php?topic=10264.0
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2006, 09:08:43 PM »

any that really improve my overall connection ? and downlaods i really dont care about web broswing that much im a gamer lol
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2006, 02:59:39 AM »

any that really improve my overall connection ? and downlaods i really dont care about web broswing that much im a gamer lol

DMN ~ Try these setting in CableNut Adjuster
for XP on-line gaming.

DefaultReceiveWindow = 12288
DefaultSendWindow = 8192
DisableAddressSharing = 1
InitialLargeBufferCount = 100
InitialMediumBufferCount = 240
InitialSmallBufferCount = 320
LargeBufferSize = 12288
MaxFastTransmit = 6400
MediumBufferSize = 8192
PriorityBoost = 1
SmallBufferSize = 4096
TransmitWorker = 20
FastSendDatagramThreshold = 1024
EnableFastRouteLookup = 0
EnablePMTUDiscovery = 0
IgnorePushBitOnReceives = 0
GlobalMaxTcpWindowSize = 6432
MaxFreeTcbs = 8000
MaxHashTableSize = 16384
MaxNormLookupMemory = 5000000
SackOpts = 1
SynAttackProtect = 0
Tcp1323Opts = 0
TcpLogLevel = 1
MaxDupAcks = 2
TcpMaxHalfOpen = 100
TcpMaxHalfOpenRetried = 80
TcpRecvSegmentSize = 536
TcpSendSegmentSize = 536
TcpTimedWaitDelay = 30
TcpUseRFC1122UrgentPointer = 0
TcpWindowSize = 6432
MaxConnectionsPer1_0Server = 20 or 8
MaxConnectionsPerServer = 20 or 4
DefaultTTL = 64
DisableUserTOSSetting = 1
TcpMaxDataRetransmissions = 6 ~ you can raise this if you experience dis-connections
DefaultTOSValue = 96

The other thing you need to do for on-line gaming w/dial-up is turn off both hardware and software compression;
 
right click your connection icon in your system tray and click status (or goto Network Connections), > Properties under General tab > Connect using ~ click Configure and uncheck Enable modem compression.
Now goto Networking tab > Type of dial-up server I am calling > Settings and uncheck Enable software compression.

now goto Control Panel > Phone and Modem Options > Modems > Advanced tab > click Change Default Settings and in Data Connection Preferences > choose Disabled for Compression.

. . .after many tweaking nights ~ these are the best settings I have found for on-line gaming w/dial-up.
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2006, 08:33:04 AM »

hey ROM any thign that will give me a overall stronger connection?because 39 kb is pretty bad.Another thing ive been trying to turn off compression on the networked places thing for a while now and it will not open (preferances) is anything short of re adding my internet in there i can do to open it.Also what do you think about this page I saw it in one of your old posts http://www.webnovice.com/dec00/modemoverclock.htm
 does the one reg edit he did improve the profromance alot ?

P.S  could check out internet tweak 4.5 on magellass.com(its a dialup modifier program) could you guys tell me if it helps alot i really dont know what options to select lol thanks again
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2006, 12:36:13 PM »

Hey DMN.First ROM has an exceptional connection
I think he would be the first to admit that.Most of us with dial-up do not.Yours may be already as good
as you are going to get it but trying the tweaks can make your connection perform better in
a lot of cases.The testmy test shows you have AOL a lot of people complain about AOL I
haven't had an AOL connection so I don't know but in general if you can get an ISP thats not
AOL it will probably be better.
ROM suggests disabling compression but when he does this it forces MSMPPC compression.
My ISP doesn't support this so when I disabled all compression I experienced a real slow down
It may be the same for you.
I will see if I can find you something on getting the network places to work.
There are several regedits in the link so which one do you have a question about?
Try the tcpip analyzer at the site below & post the results.
http://www.[this.site.has.been.blocked.for.spamming]/
Also you line or loop distance is a major factor on dial-up speed.Thee best way to find
legnth is to call your telephone company but the CO distance here is a good estimate to start with.
post your distance after checking.
http://www.dslreports.com/prequal/distance
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2006, 12:44:07 PM »

TCP properties for IP = 172.165.101.181 ()
Browser/OS = Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.Cool Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5
Notes: Read the Analyzer FAQ if the above is not your IP address.
TCP options string = 0204055001010402
MTU = 1400
MTU is not fully optimized for broadband. Consider increasing your MTU to 1500 for better throughput. If you are using a router, it could be limiting your MTU regardless of Registry settings.
MSS = 1360
MSS is not optimized for broadband. Consider increasing your MTU value.
Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 6800
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 6800

RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
522240 (MSS x 48 * scale factor of Cool
261120 (MSS x 48 * scale factor of 4)
130560 (MSS x 48 * scale factor of 2)
 65280 (MSS x 48)
bandwidth * delay product (Note this is not a speed test):

Your RcvWindow limits you to: 272 Kbps (34 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 108.8 Kbps (13.6 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
Consider increasing your RWIN value to optimize TCP/IP for broadband.
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = OFF
Time to live left = 55 hops

TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
IP type of service field (RFC1349) = 00000000 (0)

For the second one I got no est.

and again how much would the reg edit on this artical help http://www.webnovice.com/dec00/modemoverclock.htm
and its really not AOL its like a partner company called compuserve but have any suggestions on a  differnet isp, I like compuserve because I've hardly ever had any disconnects in 5 years
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2006, 01:31:04 PM »

DMN some of the information in this MS article may help trobleshoot & fix your network places.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/825826/en-us
I think the regedit settings in this link are not for XP but 98 &ME.
http://www.webnovice.com/dec00/modemoverclock.htm
The only way to find your line or loop distance then will be to call your telephone company.You need to talk to a tech.
I will do some checking into compuserve but the few disconnects sounds good.
Your ISP is probably setting the MTU at 1400 but it could be something else maybe ROM could help with this.I think he had to get his to work at 576 for gaming.
Have you installed cablenut?The settings below in cablenut may help this.It makes the settings in the registry for you.
TcpWindowSize = 6432
 GlobalMaxTcpWindowSize = 6432
TcpRecvSegmentSize = 536
TcpSendSegmentSize = 536
EnablePMTUDiscovery = 0
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2006, 01:34:08 PM »

ok thanks yeah Ive had cablenut for a long time I'll change those and would getting a shorter line to my wall help lol

anything I can do to change my MTU? what should it be
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2006, 01:53:35 PM »

DMN; The shortest phone cable from the PC to the wall is best .But you need to have it usable
not many will use a cable so short they have to set the PC on the floor by the wall jack   :haha:
On this setting if you don't like the way it performs change back to 1.EnablePMTUDiscovery = 0
On the phone cable if you can make your own with twisted pair CAT3 or Cat5 they are the best quality.You probably already do this but your modem internal or external should be the only thing plugged into the wall jack.& no phone plugged into the modem .Most have a place for this but it lowers performance.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2006, 02:00:12 PM »

anything I can do to change my MTU? what should it be  also check out the internet tweak program from magellass.com I dunno if it helsp byt theres 3 pages of options I don't under stand xD could you check it out for me please

thanks again
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2006, 02:07:18 PM »

DMN:Unless the changes in cablenut change the MTU then I don't know maybe ROM can help you with this when hes here.
I'm not much of a fan of tweak programs they mostly make system changes for you you can make yourself & may make some changes you don't want. But I will give it a look.
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2006, 02:09:23 PM »

thanks you've been a BIG help maybe ROM can help with the mtu problem
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2006, 02:43:05 PM »

DMN;Maybe this will help with changing the MTU I didn't ask but I assumed you have XP. .I didn't find 3 pages of options for Internet Tweak at the link or anything about xD.
A lot of the information below is for PPPoE but I think some of it can be applied to Dial-up so XP will use  MTU of 576 & MSS of 536 for dial-up.When this is what is wanted.

 I find some conflicts of information on this .So I guess you need to try it both ways
 if you are having problems setting the MTU.
 EnablePMTUDiscovery
When set to 1 (True), TCP attempts to discover MTU automatically over the path to a remote host. Setting this parameter to
0 causes MTU to default to 576 which reduces overall performance over high speed connections.
OR
Setting MTU overrides the default MTU for the network interface it is added to. Note that if
EnablePMTUDiscovery is set to 1, TCP will use the smaller value of this local MTU and the
"Discovered" MTU of the underlying network connection. If you'd rather use only the MTU value
 specified here, you'd have to disable PMTUDiscovery, which would prevent your system from
detecting the network MTU.
The above information seems to conflict.
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters
EnablePMTUDiscovery="1" (DWORD - boolean, valid settings are 0-->False and 1-->True. Many connections perform better with
this entry at 1, however, if you prefer to set your upstream to send fixed 1500 packets, you might want to use 0 instead).
When set at 1, establishing connections and initial transfer speed might slow down a bit, however you will get better
 throughput if somewhere in the path large packets need to be fragmented.
To modify the PPPoE MTU size, create the following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Ndiswan\Parameters\Protocols\0
Then add the following registry entries.Entry name Data type Value data
ProtocolType REG_DWORD 0x00000800
PPPProtocolType REG_DWORD 0x00000021
ProtocolMTU REG_DWORD the appropriate MTU size (in decimal)
To do this: 1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
2. Locate and then click the following key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Ndiswan\Parameters
3. On the Edit menu, point to New, and then click Key.
4. Type Protocols, and then press ENTER.
5. On the Edit menu, point to New, and then click Key.
6. Type 0, and then press ENTER.
7. On the Edit menu, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
8. Type ProtocolType, and then press ENTER.
9. On the Edit menu, click Modify.
10. Type 800, and then click OK.
11. On the Edit menu, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
12. Type PPPProtocolType, and then press ENTER.
13. On the Edit menu, click Modify.
14. Type 21, and then click OK.
15. On the Edit menu, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
16. Type ProtocolMTU, and then press ENTER.
17. On the Edit menu, click Modify.
18. Type the appropriate MTU size (decimal value), and then click OK.
19. Quit Registry Editor.
Notes• Therefore, if the MTU size is set to 1460 (decimal), the max value of NUM in the following command line can be 1432:
ping IP_address -f -l NUM
• You may have to restart the computer to make the change take effect.
 This is another setting in XP
Registry Settings
System Key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\
Interfaces\[Adapter ID]]
Value Name: MTU
Data Type: REG_DWORD (DWORD Value)
Value Data: Default = 0xffffffff
Example:  MTU REG_DWORD 0x000005dc (1500)
HKLM/SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters
GlobalMaxTcpWindowSize="256960" (DWORD, number of bytes) Valid range is from MSS to 2^30. Add the value as a decimal.
 Note: For best results RWIN has to be a multiple of MSS lower than 65535 times a scale factor that's a power of 2,
i.e. 44 x 1460 = 64240 x 2^2 = 256960. If you choose to use a RWIN lower than 65535, you can simply make it multiple of MSS
and turn scaling off (Tcp1323Opts=0)
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters
TcpWindowSize="256960" (DWORD, number of bytes) Valid range is from MSS to 2^30. Add the value as a decimal. TcpWindowSize
can also exist under TcpipParametersInterface - if added at this location, it overrides the global setting for this
particular . Note (10/20/00): Seems MS has found another bug in Windows 2000, the TCPWindowSize should be configured with
the global setting (GlobalMaxTcpWindowsSize) rather than this one - Q263088
note: For best results RWIN has to be a multiple of MSS lower than 65535 times a scale factor that's a power of 2,
i.e. 44 x 1460 = 64240 x 2^2 = 256960. If you choose to use a RWIN lower than 65535, you can simply make it multiple of MSS
 and turn scaling off (Tcp1323Opts=0)
Tcp1323Opts
Tcp1323Opts is a necessary setting in order to enable Large TCPWindow support as described in RFC 1323. Without this
parameter, the TCPWindow is limited to 64K.
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters
Tcp1323Opts="1" (DWORD, recommended setting is 1. The possible settings are 0 - Disable RFC 1323 options, 1 - Window scaling
 but no Timestamp options, 3 - Window scaling and Time stamp options.)
Note: Tcp1323Opts="3" might help in some cases where there is increased packet loss, however generally you'll achieve better
 throughput with Tcp1323Opts="1", since Timestamps add 12 bytes to the header of each packet.


 

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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2006, 02:48:02 PM »

it was internet tweak 4.5 program but what ever dont need it lol
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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2006, 02:49:31 PM »

DMN ~ did you find the distance to your telco?
that will be the bigest factor in your connect speed.

AOL might be a big factor, too. . . .can you change ISP's?

were you able to stop compression?
I have a partitioned drive just for on-line gaming and the settings I gave you are the ones I use on that drives connection.

with on-line gaming alot of lagging problems have to do with the game video settings more than your connect speed. . .lowering your in-game vid resolutions to 800 x 600 and lowering the visual texuring and effects might help.
also, games have a game.cfg file that you can edit. . .look for a MaxPacketRecieve line and lower it(most send at 1300, try 800), if you can.  you'll also find most, if not all, your game settings in that file.[it's not cheating to change settings in that file, either, it's just your preferences]
also, I helps playing on-line at off peak hours ~ lol

Oh, by the way ~ are you running win XP?  . . .wasn't sure.
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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2006, 02:51:09 PM »

Yes I am
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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2006, 02:52:28 PM »

Just out of off topic curiosity what on line games do you play ROM
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2006, 02:56:45 PM »

Just out of off topic curiosity what on line games do you play ROM

. . .mostly Joint Operations (NovaLogic) and somtimes Dawn of War.

what do you play?

. . .and what was the "Yes I am" in reference too?
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2006, 03:02:01 PM »

yes is to XP question
I play:half life 2, CS:S sometimes , Garys mod, Continuum , WoW private servers, Battlefield 1942, Call of duty 2 is what i would like to play its for isdn so dial up could play it , if I improve more i can quit the single player and play online lol
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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2006, 05:15:58 PM »

yeah any recommendaions on ISP's
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2006, 06:44:44 PM »

My ISP is just OK so I wouldn't recomend it.I just hate to try another one that might be worse.
Mine blocks ping & tracert so I can't do them.Their plus is the techs are local so I don't have to talk to someone in India.
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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2006, 07:17:40 PM »

DMN ~ I just changed my settings, again ~ lol
. . .but I stayed connected during peak hours

new cablenut settings; [online gaming]

DefaultReceiveWindow = 8192
DefaultSendWindow = 4096
DisableAddressSharing = 1
InitialLargeBufferCount = 1
InitialMediumBufferCount = 24
InitialSmallBufferCount = 32
LargeBufferSize = 4096
MaxFastTransmit = 640
MediumBufferSize = 1504
PriorityBoost = 0
SmallBufferSize = 128
TransmitWorker = 32
FastSendDatagramThreshold = 1024
EnableFastRouteLookup = 1
EnablePMTUDiscovery = 1
IgnorePushBitOnReceives = 0
GlobalMaxTcpWindowSize = 8760
MaxFreeTcbs = 8000
MaxHashTableSize = 16384
MaxNormLookupMemory = 5000000
SackOpts = 1
SynAttackProtect = 1
Tcp1323Opts = 0
TcpLogLevel = 1
MaxDupAcks = 2
TcpMaxHalfOpen = 100
TcpMaxHalfOpenRetried = 80
TcpRecvSegmentSize = 1460
TcpSendSegmentSize = 1460
TcpTimedWaitDelay = 30
TcpUseRFC1122UrgentPointer = 0
TcpWindowSize = 8760
MaxConnectionsPer1_0Server = 8
MaxConnectionsPerServer = 4
DefaultTTL = 128
DisableUserTOSSetting = 0
TcpMaxDataRetransmissions = 6 
DefaultTOSValue = 96

In my game.cfg file I set my
mpmaxpacketsize = "800"
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« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2006, 06:10:48 AM »

Ok I'll add that when I get home.What isp do you have cholla anyways... lol, like some local thing?
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« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2006, 08:32:49 AM »

DMN, If you have not already done so try out all the access numbers that are local to you some are routed differently and may offer a better/ higher connection. Try using other isp access numbers as well.
Even if you do connect at higher speeds keep in mind you may recieve alot of modem errors. When it comes to dial up alot of times Slow is fast, Fast is slow.

Like cholla said if you can, make your own cat5 twisted pair line run it directly from the wall into the comp. That's how I do mine you can find the items you need at radio shack fairly inexpensive.

Do you have a satellite? If so make sure your satt. box is not plugged into another jack in the house
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« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2006, 02:30:37 PM »

boywonder : Good hint on unplugging the satellite box.This is the receiver box for DISH or Direct TV.If you leave it plugged into a wall jack & your PC is on the same line (not just the same jack) you will get a slowdown & sometimes more disconnects.The only thing it needs to be plugged in for is ordering pay for veiw or accessing your account for customer service .The rest of the time it can be unplugged.Mine is most of the time & I haven't had any problems receiving the channels or gotten a letter from DISH.So that makes at least 2 of us that had a slowdown from the satellite box being plugged in.
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« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2006, 02:49:32 PM »

DMN, In some cases such as mine by placing 3 commas in the preffix and/or suffix both ie. ( ,,,555-5555,,, ) gives your modem time to make a more reliable/faster connection.
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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2006, 06:45:22 PM »

Ok I was just on Continuum a 2d multiplayer game with liek 50 people per server like astoriods multiplayer kidna thing
and my ping range is 150-220 so yeah I guess thats good:)but I still spike and have packet loss sometimes, any tips from packet loss?
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« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2006, 12:48:07 PM »

DMN ~ have you looked in your game folder for the game.cfg file?
. . .you might be able to lower the packet size there.

Do you recieve Errors in your Connection Status?
In your Modem Protocal ~ Enable Modem Error Control

and try setting the Modem IRQ Priority tweak.

right click My Computer > Properties > under Hardware Tab
open Device Manager > click on View and Resourses by type
click on Interrupt request (IRQ)
find which IRQ## is assigned to your modem

goto Start > Run type regedit and goto the PriorityControl
branch of  local_machine and what ever IRQ## is given to your modem ~
create a new value name dword  Irq##Priority
and modify the value data = 1 hexadecimal base

It should end up looking like this with the ## being
the number of your modems IRQ

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control
\PriorityControl


Irq##Priority      REG_DWORD      0x00000001 (1)

create and add; (while your there)
 
Win32PrioritySeparation     REG_DWORD    0x00000026  (38)
[use hexadecimal base]

this will give more priority to what is in the forefront ~ what you see on the screen.
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