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« on: February 04, 2006, 03:33:14 PM »

My friend bought a pc for me to build, he cant get broadband *to far out* and he has dial-up. Is ther anyway to share a dial-up connection? his dialup is basically always on cause they usetheir cell phones... but i need to know a way to setup a dial-up network without buying an extra line...thanks, Tim
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2006, 03:35:53 PM »

I dont think u can share a  dial up connection
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2006, 03:42:24 PM »

I dont think u can share a  dial up connection

its easy to share dial up. you will have to go through the pc that has the modem. and use a crossover cable from that pc to the next pc. when you right click on the dialup connection in the network connections page. click properties and go to the advance tab, there will be a option in there for sharing the internet connection.
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2006, 03:48:25 PM »

its easy to share dial up. you will have to go through the pc that has the modem. and use a crossover cable from that pc to the next pc. when you right click on the dialup connection in the network connections page. click properties and go to the advance tab, there will be a option in there for sharing the internet connection.
man i wish i had known when i had dial up
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2006, 06:03:36 PM »

yeah you can share it.. but it is going to be slow as hell! you can even put it accross a network.. wireless
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2006, 08:41:33 PM »

WOW sharing DIAL-UP??????? That is some funny SHYT!!! LMAO :>) why in the hell would you want to share a 6KB connection????
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2006, 08:42:13 PM »

Did I say that was some funny shyt??? I had to say it again
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2006, 08:45:36 PM »

so you can run more than 1 pc on the net.... at the same time...... its better than nothing... especially if u cant get cable..
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2006, 11:48:16 PM »

I had dialup for like 6 years...never knew you could do that.  I recently got satellite internet (way better than dialup).
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2006, 12:00:59 AM »


Choke, puke, cough, cough, try satellite. DirecWay, Earthlink, etc... Faster than dial up to share at least.
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2006, 12:03:15 AM »

Did I really say that? Damn I must need help!! :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: Arrow
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2006, 09:08:38 AM »

TimPawlak if you wanted you could get a cheap second line installed in your house, then put 2 modems in your computer, and do modem bonding, and double your speed.
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2006, 09:15:17 AM »

Yeah i shared dialup for a while.. what I did was have a host computer that would stay online all the time.. I rigged AOL with a program that would generate traffic so that you wouldnt get signed off.. then set up the browersers.. and i was good..

TimPawlak if you wanted you could get a cheap second line installed in your house, then put 2 modems in your computer, and do modem bonding, and double your speed.

I am pretty sure that your ISP has to support dual modem connections.. otherwise it will not work.  Most of the ISPs dont support this anymore... they would rather  sell you broadband than have you make your own.
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2006, 09:30:14 AM »

Yeah i shared dialup for a while.. what I did was have a host computer that would stay online all the time.. I rigged AOL with a program that would generate traffic so that you wouldnt get signed off.. then set up the browersers.. and i was good..

I am pretty sure that your ISP has to support dual modem connections.. otherwise it will not work.  Most of the ISPs dont support this anymore... they would rather  sell you broadband than have you make your own.

most wount support it but there are a few, bellsouth does support it, and i know netzero/juno supports it. i did it with 4 modems on netzero, and did the same thing you did swimmer had a host computer that would stay on all the time. i was getting about 190-210Kbps on 4 modems.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2006, 10:14:02 AM »

Maybe that is how ROM-DOS achieves his speeds. That is very interestng!!!!

So instead of just splitting 56k into twin 28k's, you can actually double or triple 56k onto one computer, for $9.98 per month? Requires 2 computers or modems? Really interesting stuff, and cheap to experiment with. A little more details please???

Sounds like that would beat the hel_ out of partial T-1 for price. MORE PLEASE!!!!!!!! Sort of like sticking 4 carburetors on a 4 cylinder engine and getting it to run right. Bad  as_ 4 banger. Hmm. Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Arrow
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2006, 10:27:19 AM »

funny stuff here, and interesting, i like it  Very Happy
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2006, 10:45:02 AM »

So would that be a multiple dial up provider, or what. Maybe dual provider. I would seriously try it if someone could simple-user map it out for me! Seriously! Would be able to use on kids computer, instead of having to share my slow Dway speeds for their use. If it worked well I might be interested in doing it for myself!
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2006, 11:16:47 AM »

Someone should put this in dial-up forum, would get ROM-DOS's attention then maybe we could better info on it.
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2006, 11:32:38 AM »

Your wish is my command..

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Here is something that I found.. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1563/is_5_17/ai_63502563
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2006, 12:37:18 PM »

Maybe that is how ROM-DOS achieves his speeds. That is very interestng!!!!

Hmm. Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Arrow

lol ~ I think my speeds had alot to do with me being only two blocks away from the switching station.

I'm not sure if Modem bonding or Modem teaming still works?
. . .you'll have to investigate that.  I might have toyed with the thought, but I think you would have to have another dial-up line installed.

I just got on board with Qwest's DSL a couple of weeks back ~ and now I'm experiencing some strange DNS server problems ~ I think?  or they're doing some downtime updates? ~ lol

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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2006, 04:11:27 PM »

So what kind of exceleration could you probably have gotten if you had maxxed it out in this way, or do you still have the setup to try this? 300 connection speed,or will the world never know?  Not really trying to rib you, it is just that you are so good at it that you have our undivided attention. Kind of like watching an auto race we're the ones crashing, and you are the one winning. "The dial-up terminator". Stay tuned for further events, and now for a commercial.
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2006, 08:52:24 PM »

. . . it is just that you are so good at it that you have our undivided attention. Kind of like watching an auto race we're the ones crashing, and you are the one winning. "The dial-up terminator".
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lol ~ I crashed once ~ un-installing AOHell from my system a few years back ~ but when I re-installed I decided to partition my drive 3 ways and install Windows XP twice and dual-boot ~ no problems since.

. . .and now that I got my DSL settings set and running right ~ it's time to up-grade my system.

tommie man ~ have you tried any of the XP tweaks in  * Performance Tuning and Services * ?
[If you feel a little hesitant ~ just PM me and I'll help you with a few that might help speed up your system and maybe your surfing speed, too]. . . .you'll be a tweak freak, yet icon_thumright ~ lol
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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2006, 09:06:40 AM »

I found business class hardware on ebay.. http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-Netopia-R2020-Dual-Analog-Router_W0QQitemZ5862640024QQcategoryZ51168QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Take 2 56k lines and combines them into one 112 Kbps line..
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2006, 09:14:44 AM »

Combining multiple 56k lines will only increase throughput (capacity per sec) limits, but not speed. Here is a link to explain:

http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~cheshire/rants/Latency.html
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2006, 09:59:48 AM »

trogers: The link article was very interesting I haven't looked into the  Apple Geoport telecom adapter but it would definatly work better than a modem if it is usable over the internet.Meaning if ISP's & phone companies would support it.It would really improve dial-up speed especially for gaming & small data transfers.
I need to read it again but I think 2 modems would share the same 100ms so speed would increase as well as capacty but you would get the 100ms no matter what .
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2006, 10:33:21 AM »

yeah.. I think this has to do with external modem.. I am pretty sure, not positive, that the 100ms refers the amount of time that it takes the computer to sent it to the modem, connected to the computer via serial, and then receive the sent message.

By doubling the bandwidth and using the product, which will bond the connections to the user..  but when it comes to download/uploading it would use both the lines seperate. so if you were trying to download like 5mb.. one line would download 2.5 and the other would download 2.5 assuming that the server allows multiple connections.

This seems article seems to be way out of date also.. there is no mention of 56k at all. and the apple product they are comairing it to is also connected to serial..  Where as the product that i posted can be connected to serial, which would enduce transmission time or it can be connected via ethernet.  Which would mean that it would induce less than 1ms.
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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2006, 11:46:36 AM »

I did some checking on the serial port latency What I found was about 26ms but thats each direction so 52ms for round trip.
This is on tracert & latency
http://www.modemsite.com/56k/backbone5.asp
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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2006, 12:58:08 PM »

Alright i might have confused my self completly.. it has been one of those days.. if you have that hardware.. and you increase bandwidth and lag remains that same.. to the user.. that would be faster.. it would be like taking a t1 and upgrading it to like t3 with the same lag.. you could push more data over the pipe there by increasing the "speed" of the connection.
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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2006, 01:27:20 PM »

Thats the way I understand it.The speed & bandwidth stay the same but since more data is sent each trip there are fewer trips & fewer headers etc.So it takes less time.Like taking two trucks the same size full of merchandise to the same location at the same time & same speed instead of using one truck to make two trips at the same speed.