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Question: How many people feel strongly about the USA, and what it stands for?
Yes, a tear - 54 (70.1%)
Not a tear - 14 (18.2%)
Don't care - 9 (11.7%)
Total Voters: 76

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« on: April 24, 2006, 11:50:03 PM »

How many people feel strongly about the USA, and what it stands for?
How many can see the flag raised and the star bangled banner played. And not cross you hand over you heart. And not shed a tear.
Yes a tear,for me!

Yes a tear
not a tear
Don't care

Did a poll wrong. Sorry.
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2006, 01:53:20 AM »

I guess I've always been a Patriot. When my parents used to take us to the Saturday Mattenee around age 9. I would get pissed if I was not there early enough to here the Star Spangle Banner. To this day it pisses me off to here POP Singers massacre the song at sporting events. As far as I'm concerned if you don't like the Ideals of this Country get the F#@& out.
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2006, 05:51:34 AM »

I was raised a patriot .Like I posted before I am a Multiple generation American.I don't know any other way nor do I want to.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2006, 09:41:47 AM »

If America isn't the greatest why does everyone want to come here?????   Are people flocking to Iraq,  Mexico,  Russia,
Africa, and the rest???  NO.  They are headed to the USA.   LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT !!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2006, 05:34:02 PM »

I don't feel as strongly in a good way about the U.S. as much as I used to, mainly because of what the Bush administration has done to this country. A few examples.

1.He cheated in the 2000 elections, and possibly 2004.
2.Domestic spying. (I'm with NH's slogan, "Live free or die")
3.DMCA
4.The so called patriot act.
5.Trying to control the rest of the world.

I could go on....
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2006, 09:38:42 PM »

If America isn't the greatest why does everyone want to come here?????   Are people flocking to Iraq,  Mexico,  Russia,
Africa, and the rest???  NO.  They are headed to the USA.   LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT !!!!!


ppl are comming here since its a survival strategy - 80% of immigrants will work untill they have for a decent living and go back to their own country Smile
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2006, 09:39:11 PM »

simple as that Smile
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2006, 09:39:58 PM »

if arfica offered better living standards and fast income you would see people migrating there Smile same goes for iraq Smile
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2006, 11:58:24 PM »

i get choked up no matter who sings it but some little kid a while back had all these football players in tears...and i was sobbing...it means alot to me
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2006, 07:52:36 PM »

The Uk is smaller then most of your states,we still get around one quarter to one third of the immigrants you do.So clearly not everyone wants to go to the USA Yet it doesn't make me crow about how wonderful we are.Most of you guys are only third or forth generation immigrants from Europe'Asia or Africa anyhow.I think the patriotism thing makes Americans sound unsure of there nation.If you know the US of A is so great,why do you have to keep shouting about it.Surely you would just take it as said.Screaming the greatness of your nation, makes many others recoil and think you are trying to sell shabby goods.like so much coca cola amd Macdonalds Like us in the UK you have much to be proud of and also like us you have some things it's just better to be quite about.I sure as hell wouldn't want to shout about all the invations of smaller nations ,(just like us).I sure as Hell would want to keep George W quite and hope no-one else has noticed him.As well as saving a lot of good things going on in the World,you are also the World's bully,(you have taken this nasty batton from us).Then again you can say I'm just an Irish/Jewish lefty.It wouldn't take any of the truth out of what I'm saying.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2006, 07:54:45 PM »

Netmasta---at last an American who can see the other side of the coin.
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2006, 09:32:57 PM »

You either love your country or not. As far as I can tell no one here has shouted about how great this country is in this thread Miles_Smiles . EWO had some strong words but he is right. I love my country as does the rest of us here. If you don't like it you don't have to come here PERIOD. My family has been here for many generations and I am a true American Patriot! Sure G.W. has made mistakes but he is only human. He might make more mistakes but he is the president, and until someone else takes office we will have to get behind him.
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2006, 09:54:34 PM »

By not shouting it loud enough, might we be drowned out by all the bad going on?
Like my wife watching a soap opera, and thinking I am up to something. She see's it and believes it.
Or like a child going into a school and shooting people, and then other people following in his footsteps.
If we stay quiet like we have for so long, are we not just letting it go the way it has for the last 40 years.
We were a much prouder nation 40 years ago.
Miles_Smiles lets have a little preview:

World War I, military conflict, from August 1914 to November 1918

The war began as a clash between two coalitions of European countries. The first coalition, known as the Allied Powers, included the United Kingdom, France, Belgium, Serbia, Montenegro, and the Russian Empire (see Russia). The Central Powers, which opposed them, consisted of the empires of Germany and Austria-Hungary. Japan joined the Allied Powers in 1914. The Ottoman Empire joined the Central Powers in 1914, as did Bulgaria in 1915. The same year, Italy entered the war on the Allied side. Although the United States initially remained neutral, it joined the Allies in 1917. The conflict eventually involved 32 countries, 28 of which supported the Allies. Some of these nations, however, did not participate in the actual fighting.

WW11

Aug 25, 1939 - Britain and Poland sign a Mutual Assistance Treaty.
Aug 31, 1939 - British fleet mobilizes; Civilian evacuations begin from London.
Sept 1, 1939 - Nazis invade Poland.
Sept 5, 1939 - United States proclaims neutrality; German troops cross the Vistula River in Poland.
Sept 10, 1939 - Canada declares war on Germany; Battle of the Atlantic begins.
May 26, 1940 - Evacuation of Allied troops from Dunkirk begins.
Jan 8, 1940 - Rationing begins in Britain.
July 10, 1940 - Battle of Britain begins.
Between May and November 1940 15,000 people were killed in bombing raids on Britain.
France, Australia, New Zealand and India declare war on the same day followed by South Africa on 6th and Canada on 10th.
The US provided millions of dollars in weapons, armament as well as money itself to the Allied forces.
Many reasons, including that Nazi Germany was sinking American supply ships because the US was providing financial and military support to the Allied troops (England, France, China and Russia).
We were attacked, without warning and without provocation, by Japan. So naturally we declared war on Japan. A few days later, again without provocation, both Italy and Germany declared war on us. So, we gave them all the war they could handle.
President Roosevelt never asked for war with Italy or Germany before the Congress. Instead, three days after December 7th, Italy and Germany declared war on the United States.

In short we are used to being picked on by those we help out, that is the burden of being the US, I guess.
So do you sleep alright not speaking German Miles_Smiles?(or would that be Japanese?)

If that is not loud enough, I could tone it up a bit. "S H O U T"
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2006, 10:13:52 PM »

tommie gorman...

that IS alot to shout about...we were there and the world is a better place for it...hail american patriotism...hail america...proud to be an american where at least i know i'm free...and i won't forget them men who died that gave that right to me...
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2006, 10:41:50 PM »

tommie gorman...

that IS alot to shout about...we were there and the world is a better place for it...hail american patriotism...hail america...proud to be an american where at least i know i'm free...and i won't forget them men who died that gave that right to me...


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