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« Reply #60 on: July 29, 2006, 04:20:13 PM »

102 degrees today. And a friend (at least before today he was  ;) ) got a roofing job. Of course I got hooked up to help.
He decided that I was right and that non-roofers do not belong on a roof in July! Duh!
He wanted to quit half way through, I told him I will not be there tomorrow, he decided we could finish it today.  Sad
I mean, why get dirty, hot, and smelly 2 days in a row?
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« Reply #61 on: July 30, 2006, 05:20:19 PM »

I am allways amazed how many friends I got , when they need a hand , :lol
and how few I got , when I need a hand  angry2
guess thats life  Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #62 on: July 30, 2006, 05:42:28 PM »

Roco ;This is off topic but since you mentioned the gas price.I wanted to ask .Have you considered running a vehicle on Natural gas.If you use it in England.The reason I ask is there was a man here that adapted his own compressor & was compressing his home natural gas.Then running his car on it.No taxes that way .btw this was many years ago when gas was much cheaper here.
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Last Update on Jul 29, 9:53 am CDT
Partly Cloudy
75°F
(24°C) Humidity: 71 %
Wind Speed: SW 10 MPH
Barometer: 30.11" (1014.7 mb)
Dewpoint: 65°F (18°C)
Visibility: 10.00 mi.
 
 

Hi Cholla , thanks for reminding me  Laughing, been that route back in the 70's
I was running a Bedford van, with engine in cab, I tried a home propane cylinder  conversion, with a very crude control system, I altered  the gas flow using the cylinder valve ,  :whaa: I stalled it at a junction, and the gas continued to flow , the Sparks from the starter motor ignited the trapped gas , in the resulting  explosion  the engine hatch went nearly through the roof , the passenger window blew out , and I was deaf for 2 days Rolling Eyes
Oh happy day's  Smile
Our main problem with using alternative fuel in the UK, is it is illegal, as road fuel tax is not being paid(around 72% of the cost ) and our customs and exercise men  would soon be knocking on your door , or more likely kicking it  down as they have more power than the Police ,
Your weather looks about the same as London UK , just about right for me,
 

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« Reply #63 on: July 31, 2006, 01:27:53 AM »

Pretty much, that is what friends are for!  Smile
So unless they get 72% tax, it is illegal. Really???  evil
How do you fire a Royal family?  laughing7
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« Reply #64 on: July 31, 2006, 08:37:38 AM »

Hi Roco;I knew this would go around the tax but how would they know?Any gas (propane,butane,LPG,or natural) Needs the correct delivery system. Could you buy say 10% of the propane at a fueling station where it was taxed & compress the rest at home?
Or for a completely alternative fuel .How about a still ?That could have some side benefits.
The 'revenuers" (tax men) don't like stills here they think you are going to drink it instead of running it in your car.Now that fuel is getting so high they call it ethanol & allow more stills but not by individuals.
I still would like better electric vehicles.Check the wind here today.It would be a good day to have a wind charger charging the electric vehicle for free.
Now for the weather here.
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Last Update on Jul 31, 8:53 am CDT
Mostly Cloudy and Breezy
76°F
(24°C) Humidity: 58 %
Wind Speed: S 25 MPH
Barometer: 29.87" (1005.6 mb)
Dewpoint: 60°F (16°C)
Heat Index: 78°F (26°C)
Visibility: 10.00 mi
Today: A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Partly cloudy, with a high around 91. Windy, with a south southwest wind between 20 and 25 mph, with gusts as high as 35 mph.
Tonight: A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a low around 69. South wind between 15 and 20 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph.
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« Reply #65 on: July 31, 2006, 10:46:37 AM »

Heat index 113 right now air temp 90....

sweltering comes to mind....
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« Reply #66 on: July 31, 2006, 12:49:10 PM »

It is hot here. 98 degrees in the shade.  angry4

Now on propane fuel. If you can get a propane tank, say 1000 gallons. And state it is for home use, there you go. I heat my house with propane. It is pressurized from the delivery truck to my tank. I actually have a 500 gallon tank. The "new price for this year" is going to be $1.54 a gallon, and you have to remember that propane is actually high octane natural gas. So it should actually run better. And you could actually pipe it to a shed, and claim you actually heat the shed for woodworking or something. The 1000 gallons at 80% fill would run me about 20 weeks myself. So I would probably use 3@800 gallons a year. Saving aproximately $3600 a year on fuel costs. Now that would pay for a 100 gallon tank quick.
You got my brain working cholla.  ;)

On another note home heating oil is a lower grade heating fuel oil. Yes deisel fuel. Also road tax free. The possibilities are endless. Use your imagination!  icon_scratch
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« Reply #67 on: July 31, 2006, 03:13:14 PM »

Hi Cholla & Tommie,  you guys are inventive Very Happy, been down a few of those routes in the past,
32sec.gas oil  for farm vehicle and heating use , in the UK is dyed red 
if you are caught on the road using it, you loose the vehicle and almost get beheaded , yeah,  you can loose the dye, using activated carbon, but then I am allergic to diesel fuel, so that route is out for me ,and the revenue men dip car tanks on the road, diesel is still not that common in the UK, as it is more expensive than petrol ,
Cholla I like the still idea, that would be a beheading job, the problem regarding who would know, well all I can say on that is we live like sardines in a tin over here ,and we have a great? shop a neighbor reward system going on,   :whaa:, bit like Mycokerewards  angry2
I like the electric motive power thing , we have electric powered bicycles selling well,
but with very limited range and speed, 15 mph & 1 hour ,  it's the speed bit that worries me,
how do you turn right ( left for you guys ) in heavy traffic moving at 30 mph. ?
so I guess the only option for me is a  gas (propane) storage tank, but the neighbors will  ask why as you have natural gas on tap,
Hey, why am I worrying next year my  FREE travel pass will cover the whole of the UK,
Train and bus,  Laughing  but I feel sorry for my grandchildren , they will never know the joy of a good fast car or motorcycle, and the open road,
just to keep it on topic
London   UK weather   
69F  Humidity 53   wind SW (rain for sure ) 17mph , press. 1008 mB   
 
   
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« Reply #68 on: July 31, 2006, 04:04:04 PM »

Roco;What I was talking about at first was a man here in Amarillo .He was on the local news.And the law didn't do anything to him. He was using a home built compressor unit hooked to his home natural gas pipe to compress the home natural gas into his car's natural gas tank.Like a welding cylinder tank.
I will see if I can find something on doing this.
I guess if the die the farm & home fuel that would be hard to use.I can imagine a cop here checking a fuel tank to see what fuel was in it anyway.Maybe for drugs.
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« Reply #69 on: July 31, 2006, 04:08:45 PM »

94 degrees here with a heat index of 108 and I can drink the air with all the humidity...

BUT MY AIR CONDITIONING IS WORKING!

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« Reply #70 on: July 31, 2006, 05:50:53 PM »

Hi water notice the heat index here is less than the outside temp.
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Last Update on Jul 31, 5:53 pm CDT
Partly Cloudy and Windy
89°F
(32°C) Humidity: 35 %
Wind Speed: S 26 G 36 MPH
Barometer: 29.82" (1003.7 mb)
Dewpoint: 58°F (14°C)
Heat Index: 88°F (31°C)
Visibility: 10.00 mi.
Roco;Back to the NG
I didn't find anything on the man in Amarillo compressing his own natural gas but that was probably 25 years ago.He built his own compressor system out of a regular air compressor.This ones already built & ready to buy.I couldsn't find a price but probably high.
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Compressed Natural Gas
Natural gas can be used to fuel internal-combustion engines. The most practical strategy is to handle it as compressed natural gas (CNG). Natural gas is typically found in underground deposits, often with petroleum, and is obtained by drilling. To use natural gas, the methane component--which makes up 50 to 100 percent of natural gas--must be processed to remove contaminants as well as other useful fuels such as butane and propane.
Case For: With an octane rating of up to 130, CNG has the potential to optimize an engine's thermodynamic efficiency through a high compression ratio. However, many CNG vehicles are able to run on either CNG or gasoline, which obviates the octane advantage. According to the DOE, a CNG-fueled Honda Civic GX--the sole widely available CNG-only vehicle in the United States--produces 90 percent less CO and 60 percent less nitrogen oxides (NOx) than its gas-powered counterpart. And, CO2 is reduced by 30 to 40 percent. According to the company, the car's exhaust is cleaner than the air in some high-pollution areas.
 This compressor/refueler enables anyone with natural gas heat to refuel a CNG-powered car.
  Case Against: For a vehicle to carry enough CNG to travel a reasonable distance, the gas has to be compressed to 3000 to 3600 psi. At 3600 psi, CNG has about one-third as much energy as gasoline--about 44,000 BTU per unit volume--and the tank must be far larger, heavier and more expensive than a conventional one.
In addition, energy is consumed during the compression process. Currently available in nine states to Civic GX owners is a compressor/refueler called Phill that uses 2 kilowatt-hours (kwh) of electricity to compress the equivalent of 1 gal. of gasoline. With electricity averaging 10 cents per kwh nationwide, the price of CNG goes up 20 cents per gallon over the cost of the natural gas itself. Still, CNG is a bargain compared to gasoline. A gallon of gas equivalent (GGE) costs about $1.20, including the cost of compression--thanks in part to the lack of taxes added to gasoline.
Outlook: Limited. Even though 85 percent of our natural gas is produced domestically, and there's already a distribution network in place, CNG faces a limited future as a gasoline or diesel replacement. For one thing, like petroleum, it is nonrenewable. More critically, perhaps, there's already a great demand for natural gas--and CNG requires major retooling of both cars and fuel-station infrastructure
 
I thought you might appreciate this as well.Good to see your English tax pounds at work.
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« Reply #71 on: July 31, 2006, 09:13:00 PM »

if you are caught on the road using it, you loose the vehicle and almost get beheaded

Cholla I like the still idea, that would be a beheading job, the problem regarding who would know, well all I can say on that is we live like sardines in a tin over here ,and we have a great? shop a neighbor reward system going on,   :whaa:, bit like Mycokerewards  angry2
I like the electric motive power thing , we have electric powered bicycles selling well,
but with very limited range and speed, 15 mph & 1 hour ,  it's the speed bit that worries me,
how do you turn right ( left for you guys ) in heavy traffic moving at 30 mph. ?
so I guess the only option for me is a  gas (propane) storage tank, but the neighbors will  ask why as you have natural gas on tap,

So it sounds like the only reasonable idea, since you live close to the ocean and have constant breezes would be wind driven electric charged cars. Hopefully beating the road tax. Or do they charge for air also?

Sorry for the ideas Roco, but I did not know it was that strict over there. A cop would never dirty his hands to check a fuel tank over here. My brother confirmed they do dye the heating fuel though.
I got arrested one time and we had a full ounce of smoking weed in a water cooler with 2 year old roofing tar on it.(by the way the tar was so dry you could not get any on you anyway, but I guess he did not want to find out) The cop looked like it had a disease as he picked it up to move it for some reason.  tongue2 I guess your cops don't mind! Lucky you.  Very Happy
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« Reply #72 on: August 03, 2006, 01:42:19 AM »

Uk London weather
100F a couple of weeks back , now 59F , and this our Midsummer !

Thanks for the links on alternative fuel ,  good to see the UK is looking at alternatives, we do have LPG fuel available at limited locations , but it is also taxed at a high level , and the conversion is costly , so not many have gone that route, as UK cars tend to be small , there is the problem of the storage tank, 

  http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20Docs/Petrol%20Rationing.htm
Found this site while searching gas power for transport , maybe things don't change that much  Laughing
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« Reply #73 on: August 03, 2006, 09:28:41 AM »

Yes it is HOT I also live in Texas in the DFW area i would love move somewhere that has the regular four season instead of --- chit its hot  - its hot   - its warm  -  damn its cold


i remember some days last winter it was freaking cold one day and then the next you could go out in shorts

like they say if you don't like the weather in Texas just wait a minuet




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« Reply #74 on: August 03, 2006, 11:05:19 AM »

Pretty nice here today
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77°F
(25°C) Humidity: 66 %
Wind Speed: E 6 MPH
Barometer: 30.15" (1015.8 mb)
Dewpoint: 65°F (18°C)
Heat Index: 79°F (26°C)
Visibility: 10.00 mi.
Roco;Did you check out the Phill home unit for compressing natural gas at home?
 http://www.myphill.com/faq.htm
 
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