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« on: August 04, 2006, 06:38:47 PM »

I have a Gateway 831GM <specs> and I was wondering if I can overclock the CPU if I replace the CPU on it now, which is a 3.0GHz, or would I have to get a new motherboard?

And on another note, I am trying to encode movies and stuff into HD Quality and it seems to take forever to complete.  A 328 MB TV show takes 5hr and 24 minutes to complete.  I am looking at a new pentium d processor but i dont know which speed will be sufficient enough to complete these tasks.  Could someone give me a recommendation on which Processor speed to look for?
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2006, 07:15:17 PM »

well, as for the overclocking issue you will need to get a new motherboard without a doubt becuase pretty much all factory made computer come with a pre-isntalled bios that has little or no overclocking abilities.( i know from experience that factory made computers do not overclock) but personally if I were you i would purchase a new Core 2 Duo processor from Intel.  It is currently the latest and greatest technology out.  You can get the low end model for about $ 180 and even that particular model will overclock real well and put the pentium D's to shame.  And those core 2 duo multitask like a beast evil6  Check out these benchmarks the E6300 is the lowest model and it still performs very well.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2006, 07:46:34 PM »

Thanks for the tip and I will be looking into that.  I have changed my mind about overclocking a pentium D 805 thanks to you Smile .  I think changing the motherboard would be pretty frustrating anyways.

Does the HS/F that comes with the CPU provide enough cooling for it to multitask or will I have to buy a better HS/F?  and would I be able to get someone to install the CPU onto my computer, like Geek Squad, because I'm a little weary about installing new parts due to a lack of space?

But interesting post, nonetheless.  Didn't even know about Core 2 Duo!
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2006, 07:55:08 PM »

Thanks for the tip and I will be looking into that.  I have changed my mind about overclocking a pentium D 805 thanks to you Smile .  I think changing the motherboard would be pretty frustrating anyways.

Does the HS/F that comes with the CPU provide enough cooling for it to multitask or will I have to buy a better HS/F?  and would I be able to get someone to install the CPU onto my computer, like Geek Squad, because I'm a little weary about installing new parts due to a lack of space?

But interesting post, nonetheless.  Didn't even know about Core 2 Duo!
Here is a great website that allows you to choose a motherboard and cpu and they will install the cpu/hsf on to the motherboard and they will also load the latest bios at no additional cost .  I think that the hsf that comes with the core 2 duo will be good for moderate overclocking but you will have to go to a more high end hsf or watercooling if u want to overclock a lot. 
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2006, 09:29:52 PM »

So I would have to update my Motherboard anyways to get a Core 2 Duo onto my system right?
I currently have an Intel D915GAG Mobo with Intel Chipset i915/i915G
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2006, 09:36:03 PM »

So I would have to update my Motherboard anyways to get a Core 2 Duo onto my system right?
I currently have an Intel D915GAG Mobo with Intel Chipset i915/i915G
yep, plus u cant oc with ur mobo.  gonna be costly but it will be worth it, personally i was looking at E6600 w/4mb of shared cache vs. the E6300 2mb shared cache but due to some money issue i wont be able to upgrade soon
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2006, 09:39:14 PM »

same with me but I don't think any Motherboard offers 184-pin(i think that's what it is) DDR2 3200 slots.  See I recently bought 2 GB of Corsair XMS memory, so it doesn't look too promising Sad
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2006, 09:42:21 PM »

core 2 duo only supports 240 pin ddr2 ram.  184 pin is ddr.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2006, 09:45:38 PM »

that sucks.  I guess I'm going to stick with P4 w/HT then.  What processor speed is sufficient for HD Encoding on a P4 w/HT?
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2006, 09:53:59 PM »

that sucks.  I guess I'm going to stick with P4 w/HT then.  What processor speed is sufficient for HD Encoding on a P4 w/HT?
actually ur processor is pretty good.  But unless u get to a new motherboard u r pretty much stuck at 3.0GHz.  And with hyperthreading ur processor acts as two processors in a way.  Im stuck with a and athlon xp 1800 @ 1150MHz Mad  I would think ur processor would be good at video encoding becuase that is were Intel usually shines as compared to AMD.
Here is a good place to go for instant benchmarks.  You can compare ur processor to others. 
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2006, 10:00:37 PM »

This is my motherboard: http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/ag/ag_proc.htm

I don't think I will be stuck at 3.0GHz if what it says in the link is correct.  It says the high supported processor is 670 @ 3.8GHz.

But I will look at the link you gave me.  (I'm sorry for taking so much of your time, but put it this way, you saved me from upgrading my cpu to a pentium d :p)
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2006, 10:05:03 PM »

This is my motherboard: http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/ag/ag_proc.htm

I don't think I will be stuck at 3.0GHz if what it says in the link is correct.  It says the high supported processor is 670 @ 3.8GHz.

But I will look at the link you gave me.  (I'm sorry for taking so much of your time, but put it this way, you saved me from upgrading my cpu to a pentium d :p)
ya ur mobo supports up to that amount but ur particular processor is set at 3 GHz and with factory overclocked motherboards u cant overclock but if i were u i would purchase a new mobo then overclock.  Not to bash the pentium D tho its just that the core 2 duo performs so much better.  Is ur processor a prescott core?
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2006, 10:08:05 PM »

I'll just give you my CPU-Z stats...
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  CPU-Z version 1.24.0
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CPUID Output
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Number of CPUs         2 (1 Physical)

CPU #1
APIC ID            0
Name            Intel Pentium 4
Code name         Prescott
Specification         Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Family/Model/Stepping      F43
Extended Family/Model      0/0
Package            LGA775
Technology         0.09µ
Instructions Sets      MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
Clock Speed         3000.0 MHz
Clock multiplier      x15.0
Front Side Bus Frequency   200.0 MHz
Bus Speed         800.0 MHz
L1 Data Cache         16 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Trace Cache         12 Kµops, 8-way set associative
L2 Cache         2048 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed         3000.0 MHz (Full)
L2 Location         On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic      yes
L2 Bus Width         256 bits
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2006, 10:11:25 PM »

my friend had that same chip and he actually sold it and bought a pentium D 920 and now he regrets buying it and wants to buy a core 2 duo.  Did u look in the bios for ocing options.  I just assumed since it was a factory made computer that it dint have any ocing options, but urs mite. 
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2006, 10:13:26 PM »

I have a bios option when I restart my computer but is there a way to get it through C:/windows?
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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2006, 10:15:11 PM »

I have a bios option when I restart my computer but is there a way to get it through C:/windows?
no just on startup.
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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2006, 10:16:55 PM »

Is there a way to tell me what I need to look for to tell if it has overclocking options?  I wanna know what to do before restarting my computer.
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2006, 10:20:59 PM »

more than likey u wont have any options but u should look for FSB and cpu voltage, ddr voltage, multiplier.... all bios are different.  It may have those options but u may not be able to change them
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2006, 10:35:24 PM »

Sorry for taking so long.  My computer didn't want to shutdown and I had to shut it down manually.  I didn't find any overclocking options.  I only found ways to enable/disable certain drives and crap.
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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2006, 10:39:36 PM »

Sorry for taking so long.  My computer didn't want to shutdown and I had to shut it down manually.  I didn't find any overclocking options.  I only found ways to enable/disable certain drives and crap.
yeah thats wat i figured.  A new mobo would allow u to overclock. or you can go all out and buy a new cpu and mobo.  With a good enough hsf you could prob get ur processor to 3.4 GHz or moe but i am not promising anthing.  Overclocking depends on ram, mobo, cooling. psu power.....
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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2006, 10:46:13 PM »

Only if I could return my Corsair XMS RAM and buy a 2GB Package that supports the Mobo I am trying to get. Sad
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« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2006, 10:58:55 PM »

Only if I could return my Corsair XMS RAM and buy a 2GB Package that supports the Mobo I am trying to get. Sad
ddr right?  Thats good ram for overclocking.  You can buy another mobo with ddr support and it will work with ur cpu.
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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2006, 08:24:03 AM »

I have a Gateway 831GM <specs> and I was wondering if I can overclock the CPU if I replace the CPU on it now, which is a 3.0GHz, or would I have to get a new motherboard?

And on another note, I am trying to encode movies and stuff into HD Quality and it seems to take forever to complete.  A 328 MB TV show takes 5hr and 24 minutes to complete.  I am looking at a new pentium d processor but i dont know which speed will be sufficient enough to complete these tasks.  Could someone give me a recommendation on which Processor speed to look for?

ok i dont know IF amc fully answered it but there is no way to overclock a gateway computer while your using htat motherbaord. its a intel co desinged board and doesnt allow for overclocking. You probally wont be able to replace it because i think gateway uses a custom motherboard format.

As far as video encoding goes its going to take a while if your doing HD quality  it takes a long time. If you want faster your going to have to go and get a dual core computer.
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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2006, 09:55:26 PM »

You could try downloading ClockGen and your chipset might be supported.
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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2006, 09:59:24 PM »

ok i dont know IF amc fully answered it but there is no way to overclock a gateway computer while your using htat motherbaord. its a intel co desinged board and doesnt allow for overclocking. You probally wont be able to replace it because i think gateway uses a custom motherboard format.


Emachines did the same thing :\
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« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2006, 10:04:59 PM »

pretty much all factory made computers have the preinstalled pos bios.
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« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2006, 10:08:28 PM »

pretty much all factory made computers have the preinstalled pos bios.

they do that so you dont destroy the computer, its actually a good thing for them and most people.
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« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2006, 10:09:07 PM »

You know where I can find my PSU's voltage? And would I need a new operating system once I set up a new mobo?
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« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2006, 10:13:05 PM »

You know where I can find my PSU's voltage? And would I need a new operating system once I set up a new mobo?
just open up ur computer and look at the psu specs. 
You could try using ur same hard drive with the same os but sometimes that doesnt not work due to driver issues...etc Especially since that is a factory installed OS
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« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2006, 10:15:39 PM »

So I'm really going to have to spend alot on this ugrade.  And I thought I would be able to just get the new processor installed and be done.  Obviously, I thought wrong.
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