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The only reason why I still have it is because EVDO is not available yet, and also I think it might get better whenever WB-1 is online. Also the user that posted before with the high pings on EVDO was obviously in a bad spot otherwise the pings will be satellite easily. The fact of the matter is EVDO is and always will be better than satellite. I have seen much higher pings on Hughes and Wildblue than I will ever see on EVDO. Whenever you are browsing guess what...PINGS MATTER!!! Satellite always has and ALWAYS will be a dial-up alternative and NOTHING more.

To grandpa you are exactly right on signal fluctuations being the source of the speed fluctuations. I have read on the evdoforums multiple cases where people had speeds that were either consistently slow or fluctuated and was fixed by simply adding an antenna. I have also seen people getting a good 1.4mb in some cases. Also the upload on EVDO (rev a) stomps satellite. I have seen a user post as high as 900k.

Jeffwalker just got through showing you that it can do just as good as DSL if the signal is good.

Pinging testmy.net [67.18.179.85] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=54
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=54
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=54
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 67.18.179.85:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 39ms, Maximum = 42ms, Average = 39ms

I have seen many DSL accounts that could not even get latency like that. Also you keep saying well you could have a business Hughesnet account for that price. Can you take your Hughesnet with you wherever you go? Can you play online games with your Hughesnet? Can you use VOIP with your Hughesnet? Can you download all you want with your Hughesnet? Can you browse secure sites quickly and easily with your Hughesnet? NO...Also you don't haft to pay $55-70 a month per user. You can simply get an EVDO router and share it just like you share your satellite connection. The only reason unity got a card per user is because she needed to take her cards with her.

For one...from what I have been reading the average ping expected for this system is around 200ms which is no doubt better then any sat provider regardless of plan. 150/month which is needed for 3 users to be mobile in the same home to me is hideous.

Sirlak....was it you who said "WB pings in the 500-600ms were doable to game on" at one point?

http://www.evdoforums.com/thread4836.html

According to this link the router would allow sharing of the 3 users in home.....(and what would the speed be shared with 3 users on?) but at this point would be use less when the card holder pulled the card to go mobile.

I'm not going to spend 150/month for my 3 users I don't care if the pings are 5ms coast to coast and speeds are 20MB up and down 24/7/365 guaranteed money back. This is not for all of us.....

Oh and can you run a server on EVDO at 150/month?..... or is that against policy

Seen the same hype when WB rolled out, now look 2000ms pings

I think unity's big issue was the FAP and she said she was not going to spend 99 for the small office to get the 500MB bucket or the 179 for the business plan for the 1250MB bucket....because of the price. I did tell her glad she was happy with the EDVO ....in my opinion its a little steep in price for a family plan (3-4 users) and get the benefit of mobile usage with the allowed average pings.

Download is slower than sat with one user so I'm sure it would slower with 3users when comparing what comes with the $60plan ......so when taking away the mobile capability by getting only one card the only gain is somewhat better pings....as the equipment cost are at or above sat cost as well as the 2yr contract. Unless you park under the tower, average pings are expected to be 200ms or even higher with EDVO.  As for hardcore gamers 150-200ms may very well still complain?

- somewhat better pings(still higher than DSL or cable on average)

- equipment cost high

- extreme high cost to be portable and keep service at the home for family use

- unlimited plan no FAP with Sprint

Gains over sat...slightly better pings, not any faster speeds, no FAP?

So I guess Sirlak that wasn't you who said gaming was "doable" on WB?

Seems so hilarious how when a male mentioned spending the same money on a business plan for service.....attack!



and so gramps your saying your really not getting these speeds?


and I have you and gorman both say.... "FAP is not an issue for me" and gorman say "upload is not important to me". 

Guess if the lady said the tweaks were useless as other web sites do say for the self hosted systems.....that would be the end of that game too?


My point is even it were avaible for me I would not jump on a 2yr contract and spend hundreds of dollars with out looking at the big picture. Obviously to me its not better than cable,dsl, or fios

It doesn't matter because you just can't go on-line for free.

Yes ping times are good.

Equipment cost is the WRTG54G3G-ST. I was given a price from Sprint of $199.99, it's a wireless router that will accept a wireless card. The card and router are portable on Sprint network. One brand of card works out to be free.
     Hughes for new is, not sure now but was $499.00 but had rebates and 15 month contract. Being Moto-Sat much much more.

Sprint unlimited, yes

Gains, better pings, speeds near same maybe better than Sat with same price plan and no FAP.

Did I say I'm not getting those speeds, where? Your doing the checking and posting. Sat varies every second and I said I'm curious to see what I could do with EVDO. As far as FAP I never have been in my 6 years using Hughes 2-way.

Now we know you won't spend hundreds of dollars but did you put out money for new Sat in the beginning, if so there was a contract wasn't there?

I would be willing to try it when my 7000 commitment runs out for the trial period and if wasn't as good I'd return it. Each location can react differently, revision A  may not be there and signal quality is a variable. Thats why I'm researching, so far I have no complaints about Hughes at all. Any problems were sorted out and resolved and my 2-way system has been great for 6 years.

Wow! I kind of feel like I shouldn't have ever posted here in the first place! lol This is the last time I'm going to defend my decision... I just posted because this forum was exactly what I was searching for when I decided to go the route I chose. I didn't want to cause any arguments!:( I am happy with what I have, and I don't mind paying for it(I realize that it is a lot of money, but only $50 more than I was paying for sat and t-mobile, and now my husband and I are BOTH mobile and happy). I go to grad school online, I do 3D art and sell through a few 3D stores online, I download programs that I buy online that are fairly HUGE, my husband games online, we won't get FAPd now... this is totally worth the extra $50 a month to us. If we didn't need to be mobile, we definitely would have tried the router, but I do wonder if the speeds would be lower with 3 computers hooked up to one card. We have 3 desktops in the house, but 2 are not hooked up to the internet right now... but the router may be an option in the future, just for the desktops. I will be keeping the laptops mobile. Why have a laptop that you can't take with you(and everything I do is on the internet). lol

Anyway, thanks to those who gave me great information and advice, I really appreciate it!:)

Steph

Take a look back gorman to post #88 ...simply told untiychild glad she like it, but I did not see where it wan any faster than sat according to the speed test logs. Then mr post to post lights the flame torch with post #89


Seems odd to me your always bragging your 1500k  sat speeds, now all if a sudden are the same as dial-up 

Always posting about these special tweaks for these self-hosted systems......this is why you don't like me and bird cause we point these contradictions out 

No fikester is not a mod or a news anchor, but yes gorman I have been a member longer ......and will not  bow down to your attacking my posts with remarks covered by hints of joking. No....I don't hardly think you treat all alike (you make special post toward important members/mods on here)....then name call and try to attack post from  some of us. (another example off the top of my head) a post of mine about anti virus programs reviews....mins later bam "look at the date that article was written" bla bla bla. I will not bow down to you or stoop to your childish level of name calling. 

I think gorman you need now to deflate as your head is getting quite large....

What exactly is not usually tolerated here....its not me name calling, cursing etc..?

Please get back on topic >>>>>>>>>>

   edit of a quote >>>>
Can you take your Hughesnet with you wherever you go?
Can you play online games with your Hughesnet?
Can you use VOIP with your Hughesnet?
Can you download all you want with your Hughesnet?
Can you browse secure sites quickly and easily with your Hughesnet?

NO

          
Wow! I kind of feel like I shouldn't have ever posted here in the first place! lol This is the last time I'm going to defend my decision... I just posted because this forum was exactly what I was searching for when I decided to go the route I chose. I didn't want to cause any arguments!

I am happy with what I have, and I don't mind paying for it(I realize that it is a lot of money, but only $50 more than I was paying for sat and t-mobile, and now my husband and I are BOTH mobile and happy).

 I go to grad school online, I do 3D art and sell through a few 3D stores online, I download programs that I buy online that are fairly HUGE, my husband games online, we won't get FAPd now... this is totally worth the extra $50 a month to us.

If we didn't need to be mobile, we definitely would have tried the router, but I do wonder if the speeds would be lower with 3 computers hooked up to one card.

We have 3 desktops in the house, but 2 are not hooked up to the internet right now... but the router may be an option in the future, just for the desktops. I will be keeping the laptops mobile. Why have a laptop that you can't take with you(and everything I do is on the internet). lol

Anyway, thanks to those who gave me great information and advice, I really appreciate it!:)

    
arguments!:(  never should of been started ( period )

     
You did the correct thing

You asked about service and equipment and got answers and got what will work for you

     
Please don't let a few Jerks or people keep you from using testmy.net

 
Members helping others is what it should be all about
not causing or starting problems

      
EVDO has to be better than satellite - do to multiple factors

 
( my 3 cents ) Jeff