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« on: January 28, 2007, 10:05:28 AM »

Just ordered EVDO-A. Cancelling mt Hughesnet order. Save the 300 upfront since I just have to pay 59.99 a month and no equipment to buy( PX500 card is free after instant rebate). VSAT technician recommended EVDO over staellite for on line gaming purposes. In the next few days I will report back. In the meanwhile can someone else enlighten me on how their on line gaming works with EVDO-A.

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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2007, 11:05:10 AM »

Is it truly running the Revision A today?

I have straight EVDO ( 1st Gen ) and get 200-400ms ping times on average.
I hear that revision A is supposed to be better, but I did not think it was active anywhere yet.
Either way, EVDO anything should be better than satellite for gaming purposes anyways.


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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2007, 11:50:54 AM »

For the heck of it, I fired up the laptop and ran a ping testt.
The times are better than I recall they usually were:


Pinging testmy.net [67.18.179.85] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=147ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=166ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=108ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=340ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=170ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=153ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=168ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=94ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=132ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=94ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=132ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=124ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=222ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=132ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=145ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=146ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=131ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=172ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=132ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=145ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=159ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=145ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=133ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=146ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=131ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=145ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=132ms TTL=46
Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=225ms TTL=46

Ping statistics for 67.18.179.85:
    Packets: Sent = 30, Received = 30, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 94ms, Maximum = 340ms, Average = 150ms

And again, this area is not yet Revision A.

Quick speed test:
::::::::::.. testmy.net test results ..::::::::::
Download Connection is:: 828 Kbps about 0.83 Mbps (tested with 1013 kB)
Download Speed is:: 101 kB/s
Upload Connection is:: 116 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 386 kB)
Upload Speed is:: 14 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net (Server 1)
Test Time:: 2007/01/28 - 10:50am
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U-Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-GPMA4XK6C
User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728 Firefox/1.5.0.6


This is via Sprint/Nextel, BTW.

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Upload Connection is:: 1052 Kbps about 1.1 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB) Upload Speed is:: 128 kB/s
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2007, 11:56:48 AM »

Welcome to the forum simpleman   wave Welcome!

So you hook it to your phone or something? And then USB it to your computer?

Is that like using a hotspot or something?

Just curious.  Very Happy

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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2007, 12:03:55 PM »

Those are decent ping rates. I am not sure if rev A is available. On the phone I was told it will be rev A but, she absolutly did not know what she was talking about technically. I asked if I could route to my other PC and she said no and that I would have to have two cards and two accounts. When there website clearly states that the merlin s720 is usable with the linksy router.

http://powervision.sprint.com/mobilebroadband/devices/S720card.html

I'm trying to get this for two desktops. If you could enlighten me on which card and how to route to my other pc it would be helpful.

Answer to Tommie is PCI to PCMCIA adaptor.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&Description=PCI+to+PCMCIA+card&Submit=ENE&N=0&Ntk=all&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2007, 12:09:02 PM »

Actually, tommie, it is a PCMCIA card.
simpleman is getting the PX500 card: http://www.evdoinfo.com/images/stories/PX500.jpg
I have a Novatel Merlin S720 in my work laptop: http://powervision.sprint.com/mobilebroadband/devices/S720card.html

The links have photos.

And also, welcome to the forum simpleman, I did not notice the post number 1 thing until tommie reminded me.
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2007, 12:13:05 PM »

Those are decent ping rates. I am not sure if rev A is available. On the phone I was told it will be rev A but, she absolutly did not know what she was talking about technically. I asked if I could route to my other PC and she said no and that I would have to have two cards and two accounts. When there website clearly states that the merlin s720 is usable with the linksy router.

http://powervision.sprint.com/mobilebroadband/devices/S720card.html

I'm trying to get this for two desktops. If you could enlighten me on which card and how to route to my other pc it would be helpful.

Answer to Tommie is PCI to PCMCIA adaptor.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&Description=PCI+to+PCMCIA+card&Submit=ENE&N=0&Ntk=all&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

I guarantee that there is a way to route them, hopefully without the expensive wi-fi sharing boxes out there.
Although, that Linksys box is not too horribly expensive.
When the wi-fi sharing routers fist came out, they were like 600 dollars and higher.
 Here is one way thru windows: http://www.evdoinfo.com/Tips/PC_5220/Windows_Sharing_EVDO_2005021759/

Any one else having any ideas?
I don't share my EVDO connection, I use it for work and have a cable modem at home.
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Upload Connection is:: 1052 Kbps about 1.1 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB) Upload Speed is:: 128 kB/s
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2007, 12:24:33 PM »

That is correct. PX500 plus pci to pcmcia adaptor so it will work on my desktop since it has pci slots.
Although I'm curious if there is an advantage to the Merlin card over the PX500.

I called back and the operator told me EVDO rev A won't be available for a couple more months. He also said both cards can be routed.

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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2007, 12:38:34 PM »

So I could possibly do this also then. I will have to check with verizon.  Very Happy

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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2007, 12:44:13 PM »

Sprint's EVDO System
Adverages 800K Baud A Sec Download
200-420K Baud A Sec Upload
as I can state this from hands on experence...

I'm been using Sprint's Unlimited Data System ($62.00 monthly fee)
in Sin City (Las Vegas Nevada) for multiple months....
I have to say it is very useable.

Have used AT&T/Cingular Data via USB cable with a Moto Razor V3 Phone
but data was slow 120 to 200K baud
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I have also used a few times,the data connect that
Verizon Wireless has, and it too is not as fast

Have not had hands on with T-Mobile .......

Heads Up >>>>>>>>
For the Novatel PCICMA Card S620 their is a update for Sprint's EVDO(rev a)

Again I have hands on tested multiple cellular data providers
and EVDO from Sprint/Nextel is very useable and good data rates
is the most useable                                                              

See this Url http://www.thewirelessreport.com/2007/01/26/wireless-data-speeds-who-is-the-fastest/
it verifys my hands on experence and other info

My 2 Cents >>>>>>>>>>>
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2007, 12:45:45 PM »

So I could possibly do this also then. I will have to check with verizon.  Very Happy

If you have the service in your area, then yes.
I drive all over the city where I live daily while working, and I rarely loose the connection.
It is pretty stable.
BTW, you should also check the other carriers, but I believe Verizon and Sprint/Nextel are the two biggest EVDO carriers.
Both are available in Omaha, NE,  where I live.
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Download Connection is:: 13858 Kbps about 13.86 Mbps (tested with 12160 kB) Download Speed is:: 1692 kB/s
Upload Connection is:: 1052 Kbps about 1.1 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB) Upload Speed is:: 128 kB/s
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2007, 12:50:30 PM »

Is it truly running the Revision A today?

I have straight EVDO ( 1st Gen ) and get 200-400ms ping times on average.
I hear that revision A is supposed to be better, but I did not think it was active anywhere yet.
Either way, EVDO anything should be better than satellite for gaming purposes anyways.
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It is active in Las Vegas
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Sprint's EVDO System
Adverages 800K Baud A Sec Download
200-420K Baud A Sec Upload
as I can state this from hands on experence...

I'm been using Sprint's Unlimited Data System ($62.00 monthly fee)
in Sin City (Las Vegas Nevada) for multiple months....
I have to say it is very useable.

Have used AT&T/Cingular Data via USB cable with a Moto Razor V3 Phone
but data was slow 120 to 200K baud
.
I have also used a few times,the cellular data connect that
Verizon Wireless has, and it too is not as fast

Have not had hands on with T-Mobile .......

Heads Up >>>>>>>>
For the Novatel PCICMA Card S620 their is a update for Sprint's EVDO(rev a)

Again I have hands on tested multiple cellular data providers
and EVDO from Sprint/Nextel is very useable and good data rates
is the most useable                                                              

See this Url http://www.thewirelessreport.com/2007/01/26/wireless-data-speeds-who-is-the-fastest/
it verifys my hands on experence and other info

My 2 Cents >>>>>>>>>>>
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2007, 12:52:03 PM »

I just reupped my contract and got a new phone with them. So it would have to be with Verizon. Which is ok, I like them so far.  Very Happy

What is the U/L like??
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2007, 12:55:11 PM »

I just reupped my contract and got a new phone with them. So it would have to be with Verizon. Which is ok, I like them so far.  Very Happy

What is the U/L like??

Posted this test result earlier.
This is Sprint, though, not Verizon.

Quick speed test:
::::::::::.. testmy.net test results ..::::::::::
Download Connection is:: 828 Kbps about 0.83 Mbps (tested with 1013 kB)
Download Speed is:: 101 kB/s
Upload Connection is:: 116 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 386 kB)
Upload Speed is:: 14 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net (Server 1)
Test Time:: 2007/01/28 - 10:50am
D-Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-LJ7NA3ZIE
U-Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-GPMA4XK6C
User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728 Firefox/1.5.0.6
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Download Connection is:: 13858 Kbps about 13.86 Mbps (tested with 12160 kB) Download Speed is:: 1692 kB/s
Upload Connection is:: 1052 Kbps about 1.1 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB) Upload Speed is:: 128 kB/s
D-Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-3H8V14MSA
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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2007, 12:56:12 PM »

I just reupped my contract and got a new phone with them. So it would have to be with Verizon. Which is ok, I like them so far.  Very Happy

What is the U/L like??

If I recall correctly 100 to 250k baud - was back in 2004 -I last had hands on with them
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