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« Reply #90 on: February 10, 2007, 06:47:05 PM »
Quote from: tommie gorman on February 10, 2007, 05:41:30 PM
Umm...no 2 second jet lag signal.  wink (to the satelite and back.) Why dial-up almost keeps up with us.  Laughing
I think that almost keep up is speed-dial. Shocked
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« Reply #91 on: February 10, 2007, 07:08:39 PM »
yes....that may be, haven't seen a ping test with that system....gotta be lower than 650-900 I'm sure. The ping difference wouldn't make it any faster for downloading or uploading large files. According to the log on here for unity's test results looks like 800 was the highest with a smaller test ...larger test were looking at around 500? I seldom see below 1000. Trust me I know Hughes doesn't compare to DSL at $30 or less, but for what I have been getting there is no way I would spend several hundred bucks on equipment/phones/modems/cards plus a 2yr contract for 500k or less down......sorry Shocked

I just don't see the "upgrade"

Did you read the fine print on that contract, they can restrict usage and change the terms if they feel the need to?

In my opinion its not at all any faster than what I'm getting with Hughes now.
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« Reply #92 on: February 10, 2007, 09:17:57 PM »
Quote from: fikester on February 10, 2007, 04:54:51 PM
Glad you like it, at least unless something changes you wont need to watch usage.....but I don't see where it is any faster.

Seriously?? lol It is way more consistent than satellite every was... plus no FAP... and it is faster if you count the consistency, and not getting FAPd.... I am not going to get cut down to dialup speed just because I downloaded something I BOUGHT over the internet!!! Plus, my husband has been doing online gaming with no issues! Yes, we like it! lol
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« Reply #93 on: February 10, 2007, 09:22:56 PM »
Quote from: fikester on February 10, 2007, 07:08:39 PM
yes....that may be, haven't seen a ping test with that system....gotta be lower than 650-900 I'm sure. The ping difference wouldn't make it any faster for downloading or uploading large files. According to the log on here for unity's test results looks like 800 was the highest with a smaller test ...larger test were looking at around 500? I seldom see below 1000. Trust me I know Hughes doesn't compare to DSL at $30 or less, but for what I have been getting there is no way I would spend several hundred bucks on equipment/phones/modems/cards plus a 2yr contract for 500k or less down......sorry Shocked

I just don't see the "upgrade"

Did you read the fine print on that contract, they can restrict usage and change the terms if they feel the need to?

In my opinion its not at all any faster than what I'm getting with Hughes now.

I think it is great that YOU get high speeds with hughes and that you are not having FAP problems, and that your satellite doesn't shut down every once in a while, etc. I would NEVER recommend Hughes to ANYONE!! lol And I think my computer settings may have something to do with not getting as high of speeds as I should be getting, but I am sure someone will help me out with some tweaks(hint hint) so that I can get up to 100%...

I asked about this being unlimited and not having any restrictions, and I was told that yes, it is unlimited and no, there are no restrictions. I was told that I can download and upload as much as I want...

About the equipment costs... um... we paid $500 for satellite... we paid $150 for the three cards for Sprint, and they each have a $50 mail in rebate on them... which means they will be free. Plus, we have 30 days to try everything out and if we don't like it, we can take it all back and get our money back...
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« Reply #94 on: February 10, 2007, 09:30:17 PM »
 nono kids, lets not get into that who's got the better toy here.

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Did you read the fine print on that contract, they can restrict usage and change the terms if they feel the need to?

I'm sure Hughes doesn't have this  evil in there there fine print do they? And none of the providers can change  evil things when it goes bad  tickedoff for them.
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« Reply #95 on: February 10, 2007, 09:39:50 PM »
Quote from: granpa on February 10, 2007, 09:30:17 PM
nono kids, lets not get into that who's got the better toy here.

I'm sure Hughes doesn't have this  evil in there there fine print do they? And none of the providers can change  evil things when it goes bad  tickedoff for them.

LOL, yeah, let's not argue!  azn Like I said, I am really (honestly, not being sarcastic) that satellite does work for some people, it just didn't for us... for the better part of 2 years!  tickedoff
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« Reply #96 on: February 10, 2007, 09:52:07 PM »
« [this.site.has.been.blocked.for.spamming] TCP Analyzer Results »
Tested on: 02.10.2007 22:35
IP address: 70.13.xxx.xx
 
TCP options string: 020405b40103030201010402
MSS: 1460
MTU: 1500
TCP Window: 256960 (multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 2
Unscaled RWIN : 64240
Reccomended RWINs: 64240, 128480, 256960, 513920
BDP limit (200ms): 10278Kbps (1285KBytes/s)
BDP limit (500ms): 4111Kbps (514KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: ON
TTL: 45
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 00000000 (0)


TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.4.12
click START to begin
Connected to: nitro.ucsc.edu  --  Using IPv4 address
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  Done
checking for firewalls . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  Done
running 10s outbound test (client-to-server [C2S]) . . . . . 288.0kB/s
running 10s inbound test (server-to-client [S2C]) . . . . . . 850.88kB/s
Your PC is connected to a Cable/DSL modem
Information: Other network traffic is congesting the link

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::.. Download Stats ..:::
Download Connection is:: 855 Kbps about 0.9 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)
Download Speed is:: 104 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (Server 1)
Test Time:: 2007/02/10 - 8:41pm
Bottom Line:: 15X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 9.85 sec
Tested from a 2992 kB file and took 28.672 seconds to complete
Download Diagnosis:: Looks Great : 5.82 % faster than the average for host (spcsdns.net)
D-Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-82SD5CEV1
User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061206 Firefox/1.5.0.9 [/size]
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« Reply #97 on: February 10, 2007, 09:55:31 PM »
I'm still curious about Sprint EVDO even with this

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Download Connection is:: 1433 Kbps about 1.4 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)
Download Speed is:: 175 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (Server 1)
Test Time:: 2007/02/10 - 8:54pm
Bottom Line:: 25X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 5.85 sec
Tested from a 2992 kB file and took 17.105 seconds to complete
Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 35.83 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)
D-Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-F9WN3YKPD
User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.1) Gecko/20061204 Firefox/2.0.0.1
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« Reply #98 on: February 10, 2007, 10:05:21 PM »
Thats right they can restrict if they choose.....if you didn't buy the router and priced at $60 per card x3, you could have got a  business plan with Hughes getting 2MB /500k or a small office plan with 1.5/300. A few post down a user mentioned pings between 220-1400ms(looks like not always better than sat).....thats not comsistent at all? I see unity last download with a small file even shows only 397 (not faster than sat)

My mother still has dial up which I use when there at times, not even close to Hughes speed....26.4k (no thanks waiting 4-6hours to update a few programs)

This Sprint system is not available where I live, but so far what I have seen compared to what I have, this would not be an upgrade to me.

I'm sure your problem with Hughes was the FAP and not knowing what the total MB's the other PC's were eating up.

I know very well if DSL came buy here or anybody who has it is far superior to Hughes satellite service. My point here is the speeds in the testmy log/price/contract/higher pings than DSL (the big picture) ....this Sprint plan would not be an "upgrade" for all sat users in my opinion.  Confused
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« Reply #99 on: February 10, 2007, 10:20:56 PM »
Quote from: fikester on February 10, 2007, 10:05:21 PM
Thats right they can restrict if they choose.....if you didn't buy the router and priced at $60 per card x3, you could have got a  business plan with Hughes getting 2MB /500k or a small office plan with 1.5/300. A few post down a user mentioned pings between 220-1400ms(looks like not always better than sat).....thats not comsistent at all? I see unity last download with a small file even shows only 397 (not faster than sat)

My mother still has dial up which I use when there at times, not even close to Hughes speed....26.4k (no thanks waiting 4-6hours to update a few programs)

This Sprint system is not available where I live, but so far what I have seen compared to what I have, this would not be an upgrade to me.

I'm sure your problem with Hughes was the FAP and not knowing what the total MB's the other PC's were eating up.

I know very well if DSL came buy here or anybody who has it is far superior to Hughes satellite service. My point here is the speeds in the testmy log/price/contract/higher pings than DSL (the big picture) ....this Sprint plan would not be an "upgrade" for all sat users in my opinion.  Confused

I never said it would be an upgrade for ALL sat users... I said it was an upgrade in MY situation, where we have several users and me having high downloads and uploads because of the 3D art thing... I can't deal with FAP anymore... even if I had gone with a business plan, I still would not have been able to download a program I needed to be able to do what I am doing with my art... I would have been FAPd for sure. I am not trying to SELL anyone on Sprint, I was just giving MY opinions... of the situation *I* have been dealing with for 2 years!

How do I do a ping test, I am curious... because my husband is on playing an online game without any lag problems... and I agree fully, if I could get DSL or cable, I would totally be there, but I don't see that happening out here for at least 10 years!!!
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« Reply #100 on: February 10, 2007, 10:21:56 PM »
Quote from: granpa on February 10, 2007, 09:55:31 PM
I'm still curious about Sprint EVDO even with this

:::::::::::::::::.. Download Stats ..:::::::::::::::::
Download Connection is:: 1433 Kbps about 1.4 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)
Download Speed is:: 175 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (Server 1)
Test Time:: 2007/02/10 - 8:54pm
Bottom Line:: 25X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 5.85 sec
Tested from a 2992 kB file and took 17.105 seconds to complete
Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 35.83 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)
D-Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-F9WN3YKPD
User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.1) Gecko/20061204 Firefox/2.0.0.1

Wow! I NEVER got those kind of speeds with Hughes!! If I had, I would not have had a problem with it! lol
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« Reply #101 on: February 10, 2007, 10:34:02 PM »
And like you mentioned unitychild, your husband plays online gaming. Highes in no way is recommended for that. I am sure you will thoroughly enjoy it and deserve it as well. And storms will not shut you down, no ice or snow on the dish, or repoints, or ugly dish on the roof anymore. I am sure you made the very best choice you could have for your situation.  thumbsup

In your situation I would probably done the same.  smiley
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« Reply #102 on: February 10, 2007, 10:40:36 PM »
me too unitychild I'm with tommie
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« Reply #103 on: February 10, 2007, 10:55:09 PM »
Two things

....your paying $60 each x 3 right?

....lets see a ping -t to testmy.net


Hughes business plan FAP is at over 1200MB
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« Reply #104 on: February 10, 2007, 11:21:05 PM »
Quote from: fikester on February 10, 2007, 10:55:09 PM
Two things

....your paying $60 each x 3 right?

....lets see a ping -t to testmy.net


Hughes business plan FAP is at over 1200MB


Sure, I will humor you... sigh... how do I ping?

Is that on a DW6000 or a DW7000... also there was NO WAY I am signing another contract with Hughes after my dissatisfaction...
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