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« Reply #990 on: October 09, 2007, 11:41:43 AM »

after re-doing the steps as suggested by coolbuster, here are my new results:



Still no improvement, although my upload's up from the last speedtest.  I'm putting this down to this current downtime, and it's the first time it happened to me. 

Hopefully their service will be back up the soonest -- I'm looking forward to catching up on my online game!  cool

...and of course my siblings' schoolwork are at stake too angel

 2funny 2funny 2funny Funny to read old post
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« Reply #991 on: October 09, 2007, 11:43:38 AM »

nyay so it means no one can help me now if your going to change the topic oh well imma sleep now nyt nyt forum mates ! ! ! ! i men new friends ^_________^ smitten angel

nope. don't get bothered. i think only the administrators can do changes in forum threads and not one childish forum member.  wink

there are still other good members who can help you speed up your connection.  smiley
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« Reply #992 on: October 09, 2007, 11:43:50 AM »

 wink time to sleep
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« Reply #993 on: October 09, 2007, 12:03:40 PM »

after re-doing the steps as suggested by coolbuster, here are my new results:



Still no improvement, although my upload's up from the last speedtest.  I'm putting this down to this current downtime, and it's the first time it happened to me. 

Hopefully their service will be back up the soonest -- I'm looking forward to catching up on my online game!  cool

...and of course my siblings' schoolwork are at stake too angel

@ jun101ph.

i do not know what you are up to.

kindly review the post before you quote it.

eventhough beldeti was not successful in tweaking at the time he posted that, he was referring to the downtime of smartbro base station in his area. he said " I'm putting this down to this current downtime" and added "Hopefully their service will be back up the soonest".

and you jun101ph is blaming the 20 steps again  shocked

just responding back. now, what can you say?
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« Reply #994 on: October 09, 2007, 12:12:29 PM »

I just quote for review purposes, btw it's my first time to read that old post. wink should i be blame him that he wasn't " successful "? beldeti clearly stated "Still no improvement". Can you deny that??? 2funny
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« Reply #995 on: October 09, 2007, 12:17:09 PM »

I just quote for review purposes, btw it's my first time to read that old post. wink should i be blame him that he wasn't " successful "? beldeti clearly stated "Still no improvement". Can you deny that??? 2funny

try to comprehend my previous post and you will find the answers.  azn
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« Reply #996 on: October 09, 2007, 12:19:27 PM »

Where did you got your "knowledge" that a computer monitor operates at 2.4 GHz??? 2funny

Another funny thing is according to him:
" you might have a clear "visual line of sight". however, this does not mean that you have a clear "radio line of sight."
--> If you will say you have clear "visual line of sight" it means no obstructions which simply means you have clear "radio line of sight" ofcourse.


Alright first off CRTs can cause EMI.. Which would distort the 802.11 signal.  Try placing your router next to a TV.. Weird stuff will happen..

Also there is more than just LOS to wireless..  I can have LOS but still not have a connection.  802.11 is not a laser!  It acts more like light.  So, you have to deal with Fresnel Zones.  If you are pushing a 4 mile link you then have to plan for 48ft in the shape of a circle at the mid point around the center of the connection.   Any thing in that 48ft will cause signal problems or cause the entire link to drop.  This is why Wifi providers use towers!  To to say that you have LOS means nothing in the grand term of things.  You have to have LOS and Radio LOS.  Just because you have one does NOT mean that you have the other.

A nice little tool for Fresnel Zones and 802.11 in general http://www.zytrax.com/tech/wireless/calc.htm
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« Reply #997 on: October 09, 2007, 12:24:37 PM »

thanks for the clarifications @ Swimmer. i hope some critics can comprehend your post too.  smiley
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« Reply #998 on: October 09, 2007, 12:38:51 PM »

@Swimmer

right pc monitor radiates EMI, but my point is, buster said that it operates 2.4 GHz  seems to be wrong.

on the next issue, about the LOS, yes have to deal with fresnel zone (ideal case) but for practical purposes a 23 meter distance to the base station fresnel zone will not that big deal.
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« Reply #999 on: October 09, 2007, 01:10:01 PM »

@swimmer
In a very short distance (in the case of beldeti, only 23 m distance to the base station with a clear visual line of sight, the  fresnel zone radius is only 0.85 meter.

With that the effect of fresnel zone is not that big deal given that it has a very clear visual line of sight from antenna and the base station will likely to have a clear radio line of sight.

calculation of fresnel zone radius: http://www.terabeam.com/support/calculations/fresnel-zone.php#meters


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« Reply #1000 on: October 09, 2007, 01:23:21 PM »

@coolbuster

the PC monitor's operating frequency is not 2.4 GHz... it's operates only at MHz range! idiot2 2funny 2funny
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« Reply #1001 on: October 09, 2007, 01:41:21 PM »

Either way it is almost a meter.. So saying that LOS is all that you need is incorrect..  You still have to calculate for the extra meter circle at the mid point.. 
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« Reply #1002 on: October 09, 2007, 01:54:43 PM »

@swimmer
Either way it is almost a meter.. So saying that LOS is all that you need is incorrect..  You still have to calculate for the extra meter circle at the mid point.. 

That is too ideal, but in real sense even a meter allowance for the radius will not matter.
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« Reply #1003 on: October 09, 2007, 03:12:00 PM »

Yup.. cause your wireless operates like a laser.. I forgot, my bad.  The last time I checked I am 1.9 meters aka 6' 2".  So at .85 meters you are telling me that half of my height isn't a big deal when it comes to signal propagation.
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« Reply #1004 on: October 09, 2007, 03:33:33 PM »

In a very short distance (in the case of beldeti, only 23 m distance to the base station with a clear visual line of sight, the  fresnel zone radius is only 0.85 meter.

First off 23 meters is not a short distance. Its 75 feet, 1/3 of the distance of just about every router.

With that the effect of fresnel zone is not that big deal given that it has a very clear visual line of sight from antenna and the base station will likely to have a clear radio line of sight.

That is so wrong its not even funny.... Do you have any idea of how many wireless signals there are around you at any given time? Even if they are not 2.4GHz the will still interfere with the 2.4GHz signal.

You may also have a clear line of sight to the antenna, but that doest mean a clear radio line of sight because every day things around you will create a los in signal. The grass on the ground will even cause interference.

And most people have a neighbor with 2.4GHz and that will also mess with yours

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