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« on: January 30, 2008, 10:10:35 PM »

Guys,
I've known all the time that there is no need (or atleast not necessary) of an Anti-Virus software for Linux systems such as Ubuntu, Suse etc., Is that true? I'm currently running Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) and i don't have any anti-virus installed on the system. Do you think i'll be safe (or) do i definitely have to go through anti-virus software? If so, which one's better for Ubuntu?

If the answer is otherwise (i.e., no anti-virus needed for ubuntu) then can you guys shed some light on why Ubuntu (and other Linux systems) will not get infected by viruses as Windows commonly is vulnerable for virus attacks?
Thank you everyone in advance and i appreciate each and everyone's reply to this post...
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2008, 10:20:08 PM »

I've been running linux for years now without any anti-virus protection of any sorts.  Just be smart about how you use it, just like any other O/S.  To begin with, one of the SmarTest things you can do is not to log in as root.  Do that, play it smart and you are safe I'd say.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2008, 10:28:48 PM »

That's a nice little piece of advise.. Thanks for that.. I would never login as root though.. But thanks for the advise..
I believe that the main cause of virus attack ( in windows is vulnerability to Registry entries and some DLL corruption of viruses)..
Since there is no registry concept and no dll concept in Linux, I would say, there will be no virus attack on Linux Systems.. Do you think my understanding is correct? Please correct me if i am wrong here...

The answer to my main question being a NO.. would you also clarify me that why is there anti-virus software's on certain Linux systems? What is the need for it? When and why do we need it?

Thanks buddy if you can clarify this to me..
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 10:57:54 AM »

I think that the main reason for a virus spreading over the entire system in a windows based system is the way their kernel is set-up and the permissions it utilizes.  Any user pretty much as enough power to execute any type of an instruction on any memory location thats in stack.  There is no protection sort of to say, okay STOP - you are executing an instruction which will change something in the system portion of the stack.

Linux, in my opinion, is far better structured it gives a 'regular' user less powers over the entire system but still enough so that daily operations can be carried out.  When you need to install something or run an executable - change permission mode to su and execute it.  After the execution is finished you are back to regular user mode.  Great.  In reality if someone was to send you a piece of code that could potentially harm your computer it would have to gain some control to the system portion of the memory/stack and most linux distributions are set up in such a way that you simply cannot do it.  If someone wants to do it - sure....they can, but logged in as a user with low permission settings you should be good.

Hope this explains it without going into too many details of an o/s is structured and how instructions are carried out.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008, 01:58:15 PM »

Dont really need one

it is kind of pointless just be sure to surf smart

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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2008, 11:57:14 PM »

Excellent posts guys!!!! You guys indeed make a lot of sense about the whole idea of virus attack and vulnerabilities associated with Windows etc., I think you did make a lot of sense here and that is the main reason i'm a big fan of Unix like systems rather than windows...
I appreciate you all for responding promptly with great information..
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