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Quote from: dlewis23 on May 05, 2008, 01:15:24 PM
your not a fault for using gas. No one is. Its the only real thing to use right now. Until someone comes up with something, that is actually usable by the masses your not a fault, when that happens then you will be a fault for using gas.
The only people that are at fault, are the dip S#!ts in washington that wont let us get our own oil. china can get our oil but we can't, and thats because of the dip S#!t nancy pelosi run congress. They are the only ones at fault.
but yeh i take responsibility for my part in doing unnecessary driving...but no...it's not my direct fault...and i hate that bitch...she's so stupid...get rid of her
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Quote from: tdawnaz on May 05, 2008, 11:35:40 AM
that wasn't nice and i don't agree...everyone that uses gas including me is at fault here...single out china and india isn't right...those two countries have huge populations...
fully agree Tdawnaz , it's a strange world but in about 10 years time China may well be thinking lets nuke America ? , just a thought !
Quote from: dlewis23 on May 05, 2008, 01:15:24 PM
your not a fault for using gas. No one is. Its the only real thing to use right now. Until someone comes up with something, that is actually usable by the masses your not a fault, when that happens then you will be a fault for using gas.
The only people that are at fault, are the dip S#!ts in washington that wont let us get our own oil. china can get our oil but we can't, and thats because of the dip S#!t nancy pelosi run congress. They are the only ones at fault.
, where you hidding your own oil
, ? IMHO it is our fault for burning oil so fast and not seeing this comming , it's like having a jar of cookies, enough to last the week and then eating them all in one day ,
BTW just been reading this ,
"In recent months, Chinese state-owned oil companies have begun seeking ambitious oil deals in Canada - the top petroleum supplier to the U.S. - including the acquisition of Canadian energy companies. Sinopec, one of China's largest state-owned energy companies, is interested in buying stakes in the vast reserves of the Alberta oilsands. The Canadian giant Enbridge is pushing ahead with a plan to build a $2.5-billion pipeline to transport oil from Alberta to the coast of British Colombia from where it will be shipped across the Pacific to China."
http://www.iags.org/n0118041.htm
the Chinese must be taking it serious, as you can't get crude out of oilsands for less than around $200 a barel ,
more scary stuff here
http://www.iags.org/china.htm
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Quote from: Roco on May 05, 2008, 03:23:36 PM
, where you hidding your own oil
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Do you remember the alaskan pipeline Roco. Where do you think that oil is going? Not here. Its going to Russia and China. Go figure that S#!t out. We are paying this price, and yet we are exporting boatloads of the crap.
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Since its completion in 1977, the pipeline has transported over 15 billion barrels (2.4 Tl) of oil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Alaska_Pipeline_System
And several spots that they do not want to destroy nature to get to.
Lets see my math comes to 15billion barrels at @200 a barrel which translates into about $3 trillion to where did the money go again?
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Quote from: Roco on May 05, 2008, 03:23:36 PM
fully agree Tdawnaz , it's a strange world but in about 10 years time China may well be thinking lets nuke America ? , just a thought !
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not if we get em first!
and with things as they stand i was only pointing out the only real alternative besides finally getting some alternate source of energy going to get back to cheap fuel.
i personally have nothing against russians and chinese (i would have used it by now, trust me!) and it was only meant as an example of how bad things really are.
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LOL bro thanks for the head up on the Alaskan pipe line , I had never heard of it,
sure is a interesting thought , the oil goes to Russia , the UK buys some of it's oil from Russia ,
, maybe we can let you have some back !!,
just been checking some figs.
in the United States, something like 178 million gallons of gasoline is consumed every day.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_oil_does_the_US_consume
that pipeline has shifted enough oil to keep America in petrol for around 3 months
I may be wrong on the math , I had to take my shoes off to come up with that calculation
lol over here with the $10 USD a gallon , I use about 5 a week , works out at about 225 miles
although this is falling ,as I get free bus and train in london, it's got to be the way to go ,if you don't need to carry much,
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Quote from: resopalrabotnick on May 05, 2008, 04:10:50 PM
not if we get em first!
and with things as they stand i was only pointing out the only real alternative besides finally getting some alternate source of energy going to get back to cheap fuel.
i personally have nothing against russians and chinese (i would have used it by now, trust me!) and it was only meant as an example of how bad things really are.
well personally I often have something against the Russian , my G/F is ,
It's good we have all woken up at last to the oil problem and cost , it can only get worse IMHO, maybe now at last some workable alternatives may be fully investigated
If you think oil prices are high at $40 a barrel then wait till they are four times that much.
I found this dated june 2004
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3777413.stm
now at $120a barrel 2008 ,
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just for clarification, how many liters does your "gallon" have? you use the larger imperial ones, no?
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Quote from: resopalrabotnick on May 05, 2008, 04:44:12 PM
just for clarification, how many liters does your "gallon" have? you use the larger imperial ones, no?
4.52 litres to the UK gallon , which I think is equal to about .85 USA gallon ,
although we don't use the gallon anymore it's iso metric all the way ,
the USA gallon is smaller due to back in the colonial days we sent liquids to America , in short messure and claimed it was due to leakage
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puerto rico uses liters for gas, us meaurements for most other things, km for distance on roads and miles for speed limits.
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Quote from: Roco on May 05, 2008, 03:23:36 PM
it is our fault for burning oil so fast and not seeing this comming , it's like having a jar of cookies, enough to last the week and then eating them all in one day
That is so not true its not even funny.
In the US we have more oil then anyone. We have more oil in one place then all of the rest of the worlds oil supply.
http://www.spike.com/profile/intelsum/video/one-trillion-barrels/2768393?sublisting=videos&page=56
We haven't burned up anything even close to where it should make the price of a barrel go as high as it does.
We have more then enough oil in colorado, anwr, the gulf of mexico, and off the coast of florida, to make America, canada, and the UK 100%, off foreign oil for god knows how long.
The problem. these damn environmentalists won't let us get our own oil, because it will hurt the animals. But I can drive 2 miles look out off my beach and see a chinese oil platform, how is that far?
Its ridiculous that we can't go get our own stuff because we will just damage the environment, but china can become the worlds largest polluter......
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lol the American term gas for petrol beats me , so what does your gas cooker burn ?
The UK is heading for costly trouble with the 2012 Olympics comming up ,
we us kilograms for weight ,litres for liquids our road signs are in imperial miles ,
all cars now have dual read speedometers , apart from my old Citroen thats in Kilometres , or curency is in the £, but some years back the pennies to the £ got changed to 100 , causing a substantial price rise at the time ,
petrol now £1.10-£1.24 per litre , and the only way is up IMHO
deisel $1.20 -£1.30 per litre (extra tax on that )
After the Norman Conquest in 1066, the pound was divided into twenty shillings or 240 pennies. It remained so until decimalization on 15 February 1971.
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Quote from: resopalrabotnick on May 05, 2008, 04:54:48 PM
puerto rico uses liters for gas, us meaurements for most other things, km for distance on roads and miles for speed limits.
So in reality you do not know if yoru coming or going. That would confuse me.
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Quote from: tommie gorman on May 05, 2008, 05:14:48 PM
So in reality you do not know if yoru coming or going. That would confuse me.
And uh.... whatza gas burner there?
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why, gas of course, roco! and the correct term for petrol is gasoline, gas is simply a colloquial term. once they start doing lng conversions on cars here we WILL have a problem though. lol
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Quote from: dlewis23 on May 05, 2008, 05:07:48 PM
That is so not true its not even funny.
In the US we have more oil then anyone. We have more oil in one place then all of the rest of the worlds oil supply.
http://www.spike.com/profile/intelsum/video/one-trillion-barrels/2768393?sublisting=videos&page=56
We haven't burned up anything even close to where it should make the price of a barrel go as high as it does.
We have more then enough oil in colorado, anwr, the gulf of mexico, and off the coast of florida, to make America, canada, and the UK 100%, off foreign oil for god knows how long.
The problem. these damn environmentalists won't let us get our own oil, because it will hurt the animals. But I can drive 2 miles look out off my beach and see a chinese oil platform, how is that far?
Its ridiculous that we can't go get our own stuff because we will just damage the environment, but china can become the worlds largest polluter......
so what withs the " so not true" , (it wasn't meant to be funny ) it has allways been known that the worlds oil would not last forever, but nobody did much about it just built bigger faster and heavier auto's , and buried their head in the sand hopping it would all go away ,
"The US government said Canada holds the world's second-largest oil reserves, taking into account Alberta oil sands previously considered too expensive to develop.
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntn32355.htm
Country Reserves 1 Production 2 Reserve life 3
Saudi Arabia 260 8.8 81
Canada 179 2.7 182
Iraq 15 3.7 101
Iran 105 2.2 143
Kuwait 99 2.5 108
United Arab Emirates 97 2.5 107
Venezuela 80 2.4 91
Russia 60 9.5 17
Libya 41. 5 1.8 63
Nigeria 36.2 2.3 43
United States 21 4.9 2
Mexico 12 3.2 10
these figs are at todays consumption rates, and that is set to quadruple in the next 10 years
Oil is now a world wide comodity , and there are some fast growing big economies who are willing to pay the inflated price ,
BTW there is one Chinese for one of every other race on this planet , and they all wan't to drive fine cars , like the rest of the folk ,
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