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Thats probably w/ the donut tires, and no paint
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Most likely, and no radio or free charger.
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Quote from: tommie gorman on May 06, 2008, 07:59:25 PM
Most likely, and no radio or free charger.
Crap, the radio probably takes all the power, you turn it on and the thing only goes 35 MPH, and only to the 7/11 and back
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Quote from: mudmanc4 on May 06, 2008, 08:00:45 PM
Crap, the radio probably takes all the power, you turn it on and the thing only goes 35 MPH, and only to the 7/11 and back
I can just see it now.... your racing a bad ass vette off the line and getting your ass whipped.. then you remember to turn off the radio.
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Quote from: Shug7272 on May 06, 2008, 09:45:09 PM
I can just see it now.... your racing a bad ass vette off the line and getting your ass whipped.. then you remember to turn off the radio.
Well with the systems they have now. That would be all too true. And forget the hydraulics.
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Quote from: tommie gorman on May 06, 2008, 10:07:50 PM
Well with the systems they have now. That would be all too true.
And forget the hydraulics.
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I was thinking to make a public announcement for a type of gas strike and goes like this:
first month everybody to buy gas only from ARGO and THRIFTY and to don't buy all other gas companies . next month to buy only from ARGO and Shell , next month SHELL and Mobil, next month Mobil and Valero, next month Valero and Chevron, next month Chevron and Thrifty , and so on is gone repeat and I think this is the only way to make them to lower the prices by boycotting them.
the only problem with this is to get everyone to do it.
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One of the ways to have enough gas in the tank but a partial strike is this: Don't purchase over 5 gallons then use that before purchasing another 5 gallons.This takes away the petroleum industry from using your gastank for storage.
I know there are exceptions & people using several gallons a day because of their job can't do this but the average comsummer can.The problem is like mikewt24 posted:
Quote from: mikewt24 on May 29, 2008, 12:11:04 PM
only problem with this is to get everyone to do it.
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Quote from: mikewt24 on May 29, 2008, 12:11:04 PM
I was thinking to make a public announcement for a type of gas strike and goes like this:
first month everybody to buy gas only from ARGO and THRIFTY and to don't buy all other gas companies . next month to buy only from ARGO and Shell , next month SHELL and Mobil, next month Mobil and Valero, next month Valero and Chevron, next month Chevron and Thrifty , and so on is gone repeat and I think this is the only way to make them to lower the prices by boycotting them.
the only problem with this is to get everyone to do it.
That actually wouldn't make they lower gas prices, doing that would probably make the double over night. Boycotting gas will not make it cheaper. Boycotting gas would make it very expensive, lots of people would loose there job because the oil companies wont be able to pay the employees, and the millions of average american's who have stock in the oil companies would go broke over night.
If you want lower gas prices tell congress to get off there ass, wake up, stop buying oil from foreign countries, tell these environmentalists to shut the F#@& up, get the oil companies to start drilling off the coast of florida, and california, and build a damn refinery.
EDIT: and while they are at it, tell them to start turning coal into oil for consumers like the military is doing. Dig up the oil shale that we have trillions of barrels of. And to stop turing our crops into S#!t ethanol that doesn't work so our food prices stop going up.
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Maybe not the average American doing this by themselves but they have some kind of investment firm doing it for them as a group.Futures speculation is part of the problem.Oil company profits are at a record high so high even Congress is making a show of investigating.I don't see Congress really doing anything though.
What I suggested would lower the demand because storage tanks would be full forcing a lower price.
In the long run electric vehicles are the way to go it's just development has been suppressed so they're still not practical.I know there are hybrids but this is not really the way to go.
We have the ability to produce more electricity that we can use.If it is just developed.Everyday more is being done with wind energy.Solar could be a lot better than it now is.
We produce a lot of methane that just goes to waste.Not practical as a vehical fuel but to produce electricty it should work well.
Main source would be human waste.The ocean also produces mass amounts that just bubbles up into the atmosphere.If that was collected & used for electricity on a floating charging platform then that would be one more source.
Now let's see the government do some of that.It shouldn't even offend the environmentalists.Not that I would mind offending them.
We should be drilling off the Florida coast & any other place we can.With proper precautions it shouldn't mess with the environment anyway.
One other thing going on is in North Alaska Natural Gas is being pumped back into old oil wells because we have no way to get it to the USA.The stupid builders (the US gov) didn't think of running a natural gas pipeline with the oil pipeline at the same time.
There is a solution .We would have to make a treaty with Canada to use their Natural gas pipeline the we would only have to build about a 300 mile pipeline from Alaska to Canada's already existing pipeline.
If you want to know why this would help.If more people could use Natural gas for home heating then that heating oil could be made into deisel & maybe gasoline.
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Quote from: dlewis23 on May 29, 2008, 12:52:02 PM
EDIT: and while they are at it, tell them to start turning coal into oil for consumers like the military is doing. Dig up the oil shale that we have trillions of barrels of. And to stop turing our crops into S#!t ethanol that doesn't work so our food prices stop going up.
Bingo again !
Anyone looked at the price of a decent steak lately? For that matter any beef. Thats because the farmers can't afford the grain to feed the livestock because these morons are taking it all for this crappy ass ethanol that burns cold and slow, has much less performance, and more than 95% of the cars on the road can't use it. Let alone the fact everyone forgets the fact they pulled it in the 80's because it eats the components in the fuel systems.
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Quote from: mudmanc4 on May 29, 2008, 05:38:59 PM
Bingo again !
Anyone looked at the price of a decent steak lately? For that matter any beef. Thats because the farmers can't afford the grain to feed the livestock because these morons are taking it all for this crappy ass ethanol that burns cold and slow, has much less performance, and more than 95% of the cars on the road can't use it. Let alone the fact everyone forgets the fact they pulled it in the 80's because it eats the components in the fuel systems.
Steak... Not in my house anymore ive switched to pork chops (still F#@&en good, little piggy is doin alright
). Ethanol is really just bad, It takes more energy to make it then you get from it. Keeping everything E10 (10% ethanol) now is good and is where it should stay, making everything E20 is a bad thing. This year around 25% of the crops are going to produce ethanol, next year its going to be 50% if you don't want corn to cost $10 I suggest we all start speaking up now.
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I'd be careful about calling ethanol low/poor performance. I used to think the same thing until I watched an Indy car race. As quickly as those cars got around that track, 220MPH average, that's pretty quick. Granted those engines are designed to run on ethanol and not gas, but that is the thing that needs to be done. Design engines to run on the stuff and get the ethanol in the stations. Also ethanol can be made from grass clippings and other leafy products not just corn and wheat products. Granted even a 10% ethanol (E90) I have notice a drop in performance in an engine but again putting ethanol in an engine designed for gasoline you will lose performance.
Myself I'll be one of the last to get on SUV owner's about driving them around. I used to have one but it got to the point that I could not afford to fill it up and had to get rid of it. If it was paid for I'd still have it today. The sad part is it is costing me the same amount of money to fill a 2007 Camry today that it cost to fill a 2000 Durango 2 years ago. I have a family of 5 and the Durango was perfect, we fit in the Camry but it is a bit snug.
Gas strikes will not work. As nation we depend on our oil burning vehicle too much. Congess will not do anything since most if not all own stock in something that makes them rich off high oil prices.
The best we can do is drive more sensibly, pick our errands better and decide on what luxury to give up each week to fill the tank.
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It doesn't matter what you make ethanol out of its still a joke, it takes more energy to make it then you get back when you put it in your car. Ethanol from grass clippings is even worse. Sugar cane ethanol is just about a wash the amount of energy put it in, is able the same you get out of the fuel.
In this country we should not have to be worrying about how much gas will cost, we have more oil under our land, and around our cost then any other place on earth, but we can't get it. We have more coal then any place on earth, but we can't turn it into oil, only congress will let the military do that.
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Quote from: wknight40 on May 29, 2008, 07:14:48 PM
I'd be careful about calling ethanol low/poor performance.
Well like you said, those "indy cars are designed to run it" , and the ethanol they use is absolutely nothing like the crap they pour into the already diluted muck they sell at the corner station. There is no comparison there whatsoever.
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