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Of course they will say it is low performance, and expensive to produce. But again these are two year old standards everyone is preaching from. Now it is lower in cost to produce ethanol, many have forgotten the rise in fuel prices. And of course the gov't and oil thugs will say it is not econimical to use it. And there is no reason for food to be short, just stop CRP and open up millions of acres to nothing but corn. And save the money spent to the farmers to sit, and spend it to produce cars that run more efficiently on the stuff. these engines are designed to burn fossil S#!t, but with redesign they can no doubt burn better and "WAY" cleaner then crap burners.  

And by god if any of our corn is goinhg to the middle east trade the bastages high on prices just like they do us. I woonder what they would think if they had to pay exhorbitant prices for it the way we do their fuel.

Ethanol is not much cheaper to produce then regular gas. The problem is not that it gives you low performance, or its worse for the engine, doesn't give as smooth of a ride, the problem is that it takes more energy to produce a gallon of ethanol then you get when you burn that same gallon in your car.

It doesn't matter how many acres you open up for corn, the price of corn is going to go through the roof, next your 50% of corn is going to be used for ethanol, next year your going to be paying a hell of alot more for all types of food because of this. Any cow and pig product its going to get hit big by this, and it will not be uncommon to see a medium sized stake at $20 bucks.

Ethanol is not the way too go, why deal with all these high food prices, when there is $1.50 a gallon gasoline sitting right off our costs, and in trillions of barrels of oil shale in colorado. 

oil is still the answer and will be till the auto makers get hydrogen working 100%

You know one big resource no talks about much really is electricity? And there are some really fast cars out there on it. It is totally free from the sun and wind. And totally good for the earth? Ford had one badass one they leased out, then a year or two back they recalled them. Does any of this ring a bell?  Two great ides by Ford, and now the prices take the hell off, and Ford is not doin too well. Not really sure if any of this makes sense, but it does raise a lot of questions in my head. 

Or how about that 60+ mpg Ford pickup they was going to produce a year or two back? The one that had that bumper to bumper cylinder under it. The one article and it disappeared.  Never heard of it again. And I was gearing to buy one really. And this time it was by an automaker. I figured that one could not get bought out. 

Well if they ever get it on the market I'll be sure to buy one if they do not make it necessary to add tons of options to make it too expensive to buy. And we all know how resale will be on old ones.  MIght keep mine just for parts. And a stand by truck. 

I meant the hydraulic pickup, sorry. It would still put a damper on the fuel usage here in the states. There are a lot of F150 owners out there. I believe till the last year the biggest seller still.

I mean going 3 1/2 times as far on the same amount of the fuel would be fantastic, and that is not considering going from an old gas hog pickup. Some owners would be seeing 6 times as far on the same amount of the fuel. 

Unless you are considering mudmancs truck, then maybe 100 times as far on the same amount of the fuel.   

i dont believe u could get  many to do that because of the high demand and everyone dont have the same gasoline companys    to much  political bs

yes i   had f250 with a 460 2yrs and Ive been with mudman in his now i drive a little ranger  with a2.e :ha ha: :ha ha:and it used to cost me$60 id hate to see the cost now

I'm sure  I couldn't get enough to do this.If the idea spreads this would work because it affects all the petroleum companies.Because it would take away billions of gallons of their storage  capicity.Take a 20 gallon tank for example you only put in 5 gallons.That takes 75% of storage in your car that the petroleum companies use if you fill up.The petroleum companies count on this storage.This increases supply so to increase demand the petroleum companies would have to drop the price once all their own storage tanks were full & they had more coming in with no place to store it.
tommie gorman I liked the hydraulic pickup as well.

Personally I'm not sold on the hydrogen vehicles.I think they pose too great a danger in an accident.The fuel cells still aren't efficient enough & make the cost too high.Right now hydrogen costs to much to produce.The cost of hydrogen stations would come out of the pockets of gas & deisel vehicle owners.So for now I'm giving them a thumbs down.In the future maybe not.
I still think a battery needs to be developed  that is nothing like what we know about today.One that is light,holds a large charge & charges quickly.Then an all electric vehicle.say something that would do 200 miles in town & 400 miles highway between charges.Then only take an hour to recharge.I don't know how to do it but with enough research I'm sure it could be done.