I know its bad, but I've had enough of folks making themselves judge and jury. I mean if I wanna do what I wanna do it is my right too. And the way they are banning smoking in bars. This is gone too damned far. If I still smoked, I'd just let the kids scream and they would stay home alone then. There has got to be a place that is ones own. I just feel this is total crap. Where does freedom of choice end and begin. 

When will folks quit trying to tell everyone else what to do with themselves. Like they have their own lives in such great order. 


http://www.gimundo.com/Articles/Daily/1018/5/7/2008/Ontario_Pledges_to_Ban_Smoking_in_Cars_Containing_Children

Some thoughts please, surely I am not alone on this one. 

You need to learn the phrase...
"Smoking is legal, so quit making a bunch of regulations that makes it look like smoking is illegal."

Ontario runs all sorts of commercials(rarely see them as I don't watch Canadian TV and I avoid watching My American channels while they are getting 'censored' by Canadian regulations.....But I digress$$$$$$......

The commercials never mention that smoking is 100% legal and Ontario either refuses to ban smoking or to point the blue finger at the Canadian government who ultimately control laws in Canada. 

I don't smoke(used to enjoy some nice cigars many years ago). But I only might complain when someone stands in a doorway and the smoke just billows back in(get out into the rain and suffer).    I remember years ago when they had smoking and non-smoking sections in restaurants. On a busy day, I would say smoking section and get seated immediately and actually make it back out, while the non-smoking section people(who came in at the same time) were still waiting to get seated.

And lets not forget the cigarette tax. Some government butt holes say the taxes help pay for the health care of the cigarette smokers that are sick because they smoke and you know what?? Smoking is still legal, to help pay for the people who are sick from smoking...And have you ever seen all the added ingredients in cigarettes??  Apparently they must occur naturally during the processing. 

And lets not forget that the ban on smoking in bars has caused people to get even more drunk, since they now have nothing to fill their time with, in between drinks. A hidden statistic.

And lets not forget that some places are looking to ban smoking in your own home......and trying to prevent bears from crapping in the woods.

I guess when they started banning smoking in bars it got me a bit riled. Its like smokers have no more rights. They are humans too. But its ok to drink and such in front of them. And yes I quit smoking mostly beccause of them. And never smoked in the house. But I feel its totally unfair for the gov't to step in on it. Its really not their business to do that IMO.

They are making too many rules that to me are common sense, and not gov't issues really. 

Its almost like our lives are now part of the Oprah show or something.

 What I see we are doing is conditioning the public for full and complete control over actions.   If you live w/ something long enough, it becomes the norm.  Generation after generation have dealt w/ this, being accustomed to having to go get a drivers licence is one, then register for the selective service, not to forget to pay your taxes, you must have insurance, you must wear a helmet in certain states, the seatbelt law, don't spank your kid, no streaking ( where'd that come from lol ), eat your vegetables,  the change in the fat type in the fast food fries, the curfew for the underage kids in some cities, no walking on the grass, ( there are many places ) , no spitting, no climbing, no dumping, stop, yield, give right of way, stay on the right side of the road ( silly one if you ask me ), no trespassing, no loitering, the frickin signs that tell us what we can and can't do have become the norm, you just do it because you are accustomed to doing it, it was there for as long as you can remember.

 Just think about it, look around you and open your eye's this is nothing new at all, regulation was the founding father of this country, discrimination is a virtue, because we are all discriminated against by ourselves. It's simple people are just not content unless they feel they have control, thus the executive ladder, and for those that can't then there's that thing called pissin and moaning until plenty of lost soul followers cling to some thing they fell they can be a part of.

 Thanks coknuck !!!! 

Those are perfect. thanks coknuck, in fact till I saw your post thats exactly where I was headed.    
 

There just has to be a place where you say BULLS#!t-thats far enough now dammit.

So when do we make a rule about frivilous rules being illegal? And vote a few back out.

No spitting on the sidewalk,etc...    

And no smoking is "NOT" a sin. 

"Bitching about my smoking is aganst my civil rights" was my motto when I smoked, and its true. And it is within my religious rights to spank my child as and when I see fit. I think I saw that rule somewhere in here to. I personalloy am appaled at others interfering in that one. And it has never stopped me either.    But I also cannot remember the last 'real' whippin I gave out either. 

Man I would hate paying like 75% tax on everything. That has to get old. I bet used stuff has is prime over there. Or have they found a way to tax old stuff to. 

 I try and refrain from in the car smokin , by using the gum, but sometimes i smoke there, and I have the window(s) open, and I only take a couple puffs, it only makes sense.

"we are all humans and should all be born free to make our own desicions "
IMHO life ain't like that , any desicion we make personaly affects others  ,
"no man is born a Island" , is so true , you can disbieve that if you want ,a lot of folk do , hence the mess the world is in today, just my way of seing things , feel free . ect.
  good on the window crack , but ever had the ash blow back and burn the rear seats   

Speaking of sparks flying off, i was drivin down the road and flicked a cig butt out the window of my truck and it flew back in and went down my shirt, i still have the scar on my chest, talk about the hazards of smoking

And of course, now how is this going to be enforced. . But it is Canada where the police will be biased for a week and concentrate on one or two particular traffic crimes.
So Officer is speeding to a emergency, with lights and siren on. Maybe going to a hostage taking  and he see's a car with someone smoking with kids inside. Officer then hits the brakes and calls for backup to pull over the driver. . . . .Just a reality on the way policing is done these years, with an officer standing on the side of the road looking for easy crimes(Driver won't go to court to contest the ticket). And while two blocks away, drivers continue to blow through a stop sign or drivers use the paved shoulder for going around a curve in the road.
About 15 years ago near Richmond, British Columbia. An officer at the end of his shift is going back to the station(was awhile ago so details are general). See's a car, where the kid is not in a car seat(but still buckled in the back seat). Officer man pulls the lady over onto the side of the 'highway'. Then calls for a cab with a car seat(did you know that cab passengers are just classified as cargo?). While waiting for the cab. A 5 ton truck gets a little bit onto the highway shoulder. Hits the officers SUV into the ladies vehicle and I think the SUV flipped over. And luckily the lady and child were not killed or injured.

The moral of the story?  There are major crimes out there that are ignored for simply the fact that major crimes cost 'money' to enforce and prosecute and jail time. . . .The police and government prefer to make money the easy way. Write a ticket that 90% of the people will not fight for fear of lost wages. Even though the not-guilty may win in court. But the officer still knows the evil doer lost about 150 bucks that day....Is it really about smoking. Or is it about how our rights and freedoms are legislated away and how the things that will really hurt you,,,,,,,,,,,,Some corporation pays the big bribes to keep it quiet.
 

This is the way I see it in the fairnest of all ways. Screw the laws. If you want to go into or work in a smoking bar then do so. If you want to go into or work in a non smoking bar then do so. But leave the damn laws for real crap.

If you can not find a job that suits you, then find a job that really does suit you. It is not the laws job to infringe upon others just to appease your wimpy little whiny ass. And my business is my business. I am sure if you looked into yoru own business it would keep you busy the rest of your life. If you then are truoy ready to have your own life disected and approved upon by me, then and only then may you complain about mine.
 

Back on topic, I think the government was not for this duty in the first place, just a bunch of bored lobbyist who have to come up with crap to simply annoy John Q Public.