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« on: June 21, 2008, 03:56:53 PM »

Ok ive got a question for all you automotive buffs out there.

So its raining here in sarasota florida, like hurricane type storms.. Grounds are wet, like mad wet. So im at a stop light, and the light turns green. I have a 5 speed manual so of course when i released the clutch a bit too quickly, the tires spun. Well in order to avoid a ticket for improper take off ( again ) i quickly shifted to second and dumped the clutch fully. next thing i know i see smoke ( yes, smoke even  thru the rain ) and smell burning. I know its my clutch , and not my tires.... Especially in the rain.  My question to you guys is why the HELL did my clutch burn like that and the tires not spin like it normally would followed by grab and go?

its a 2007 Chevrolet Cobalt ; 2.2 liter
only has 50,200 miles on the car, bought it brand new.

Could my clutch already be going out? i mean is that possible?  i know it was the clutch burning and not the tires because burning trannys and clutches have a very distinctive smell..  but my question is just that.. why did the clutch sit there and burn, when not even engaged , and the tires not just spin if they were going to? buck2
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2008, 04:04:02 PM »

Ok ive got a question for all you automotive buffs out there.

So its raining here in sarasota florida, like hurricane type storms.. Grounds are wet, like mad wet. So im at a stop light, and the light turns green. I have a 5 speed manual so of course when i released the clutch a bit too quickly, the tires spun. Well in order to avoid a ticket for improper take off ( again ) i quickly shifted to second and dumped the clutch fully. next thing i know i see smoke ( yes, smoke even  thru the rain ) and smell burning. I know its my clutch , and not my tires.... Especially in the rain.  My question to you guys is why the HELL did my clutch burn like that and the tires not spin like it normally would followed by grab and go?

its a 2007 Chevrolet Cobalt ; 2.2 liter
only has 50,200 miles on the car, bought it brand new.

Could my clutch already be going out? i mean is that possible?  i know it was the clutch burning and not the tires because burning trannys and clutches have a very distinctive smell..  but my question is just that.. why did the clutch sit there and burn, when not even engaged , and the tires not just spin if they were going to? buck2
I would guess you are hard on the clutch to begin with, and  " dumping " or we used to call it  side stepping the clutch , puts a lot of pressure on it. Once they slip, say bye bye, they glaze up, and just get worse, you may not notice it going bad if you drive normal, but then when you do what you did, being glazed, well, you dumpped it, and had high rpm's , a glazed clutch already, so you fried it.

  Being so new, it has a hydraulic clutch, I can't stand hydraulic clutches, my new wrangler has one, and the thing doesn't engage until the pedal is 2" from the top.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2008, 04:05:50 PM »

Did it feel like it slipped?

You put a ton of miles on it really fast, it could very well be going if you started to smell burning. I would have it looked at ASAP
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2008, 04:11:34 PM »

I would guess you are hard on the clutch to begin with, and  " dumping " or we used to call it  side stepping the clutch , puts a lot of pressure on it. Once they slip, say bye bye, they glaze up, and just get worse, you may not notice it going bad if you drive normal, but then when you do what you did, being glazed, well, you dumpped it, and had high rpm's , a glazed clutch already, so you fried it.

  Being so new, it has a hydraulic clutch, I can't stand hydraulic clutches, my new wrangler has one, and the thing doesn't engage until the pedal is 2" from the top.
lol exactly the same as mine, except the jeeps have LUK clutches and tans. which are VERY well made.

The reason om asking, is because this car runs like brand new, ive never had slipping, ive never had any kind of hesitation , hell the clutch pressure is exactly the same as it was when i first bought it.. Theirs no jerking, no wining, nothing. I mean this is seriously just out of the blue. After this happened the cars temperature ( coolant temp that is ) actually shot up 25 deg.  its not like my old car where i noticed it was going ouit because it took a minute to grab or anything, i mean this is really the first time i have ever felt anything like this out of this car...  only tiny thing i ever noticed is that when shifting from 5th to 4th if needing to pass someone is sometimes it will have a slight grind.

so....?
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2008, 04:14:48 PM »

 The whole temp shot up thing has me wondering if you blew out a sofplug. That would make the clutch slip,  and loss of coolant would obviously make the temp go up. Anything leaking ?  Sometimes you wont notice right away, because of the bell housing, you'de know if it did though, right ?
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2008, 04:23:32 PM »

The whole temp shot up thing has me wondering if you blew out a sofplug. That would make the clutch slip,  and loss of coolant would obviously make the temp go up. Anything leaking ?  Sometimes you wont notice right away, because of the bell housing, you'de know if it did though, right ?
No no nothing like that. No coolant, no man. grease or anything leaking. From under it everything looks fine, from what i can see , engine wise everything is fine. After a bit of driving, and having the ac on it cooled right back down..  no leaks from the pumpkin either. after it cools down a bi im going to give it a whirl around the block and see what we have...

Im not going to lie, ive beaten the dog piss out of this car and yet it still keeps on truckin. or... carr...in.... whatever.
Ive roasted a set of dealership tires right off this thing when i first bought it.. and i mean f*kin right off.. from 11/32s of tread to 4/32 in a weeks time.   usually if im trying to be a moron and just spin them for S#!ts and giggles, it will spin in first, ill shift at 5 grand, than spin in second , again, shifting at 5 grand than once in 3rd the car doesnt have the power to go any further and it just boggs down... but like i said this time, it spun andi shifted, im not sure if the tires were spinning too, i just know that their was a barrel of smoke behind me and bad smell comming thru the car...  i really like the smell of freshly burnt tires, but this smell was putrid..

I shifted at 5 grand again and once in second it got quiet except for the engine rev of course... than the smoke..
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2008, 04:29:38 PM »

 Thats a good explanation as to your troubles  :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:  You fried the S#!t outta the clutch since you had it, and you ask why it went bad ?  2funny 2funny 2funny 2funny 2funny   You funny  2funny 2funny 2funny 2funny
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2008, 04:34:34 PM »

Thats a good explanation as to your troubles  :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:  You fried the S#!t outta the clutch since you had it, and you ask why it went bad ?  2funny 2funny 2funny 2funny 2funny   You funny  2funny 2funny 2funny 2funny
see thats the thing, i dont know if its bad yet or not, i mean if it is i dont care.. its got bumper to bumper coverage and i have mechanical break down coverage thru my insurance company, so the bill will be paid off either way... its just the weirdest thing.. it wasnt a slip i dont think... but it was...... LOL that makes no sense i know but after driving it a bit the clutch pressure pretty much restored itself , which it was designed to do.. since it is a self-adjusting hydraulic clutch but i was just wondering if that the first sign that my clutch is going.  lipsrsealed
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2008, 05:01:24 PM »

I would say that clutch is pretty much almost gone. If you insurance company pays for it that would be cool, pretty much your car warranty wont cover it cause its a normal wear and tear part
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2008, 05:32:16 PM »

:haha: GEEK! ...whadda little lead foot...better be careful with that thing... u could put ur eye out

so hey...can one of u guys come change out an alternator for me?? i'll make ya dinner Smile
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2008, 06:14:12 PM »

:haha: GEEK! ...whadda little lead foot...better be careful with that thing... u could put ur eye out

so hey...can one of u guys come change out an alternator for me?? i'll make ya dinner Smile

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2008, 06:17:55 PM »

u were??...really???...if u were and didn't stop and say hi...u r gonna be in such trouble...u can't even know  smitten
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2008, 07:50:04 PM »

Ok ive got a question for all you automotive buffs out there.


Could my clutch already be going out? i mean is that possible?  i know it was the clutch burning and not the tires because burning trannys and clutches have a very distinctive smell..  but my question is just that.. why did the clutch sit there and burn, when not even engaged , and the tires not just spin if they were going to? buck2

Big foot.....little clutch....no good
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2008, 08:07:38 PM »

Big foot.....little clutch....no good
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Too many dumps on the clutch its worn out big time!
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2008, 09:24:56 PM »

*chuckles* Its fried bro, just like they said, the reason it grabbed later was the glazing cooled down a bit. I am serious, I'd have it in the shop by....monday. No later, unless you like the weather for walking.  :haha:

:haha: GEEK! ...whadda little lead foot...better be careful with that thing... u could put ur eye out

so hey...can one of u guys come change out an alternator for me?? i'll make ya dinner Smile

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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2008, 11:22:10 AM »

I agree with the glazing due to previous abuse.If you are going to run the car like a race car you need some racing parts to handle it better.
This particular time no one address the wet conditions .Many forget that water is a lubricant & clutchs are subject to that just like brakes.
Maybe this can be a lesson that will save your life if you don't know about wet brakes.Have you ever had the brakes not stop very well after driving in wet road conditions ? Well that's what water will do as a lubricant.it has even more effect on a glazed surface.So for the brakes lightly step on then to dry them out in wet conditions so they work when you need them.
Not as easy to do with the clutch.Basically the clutch surface is made of the same material as the brake pads.
On the heat up of the engine maybe the belts also were slipping because of the high rev & wet condition.
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2008, 09:19:14 PM »

sounds like you toasted and glazed the clutch.  If your going to drive it like that you had better put in a good one.
Don't let a shop put in some cheap #%$%@, Spend the money on a good on you will be much happier in the long run.
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2008, 10:38:38 PM »

i'm just wondering...why did u drive it like that? if it was new especially...i thought u were supposed to really baby a new car ever so many miles after u get it...even to driving under a certain mph...

man if i were to buy a new car...which i won't but if i did...for what they cost today...i'd drive it like it were gonna be the last car i'd ever own...oh wait...at 55 it probably would be...but even if i was young and impetuous...i'd still cherish what i had...

old saying...be careful with what you have because you won't know how much it meant to you til it's gone
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2008, 05:20:38 AM »

I see your problem: you bought a 2.2 liter vehicle. :haha:
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2008, 05:32:40 AM »

i'm just wondering...why did u drive it like that? if it was new especially...i thought u were supposed to really baby a new car ever so many miles after u get it...even to driving under a certain mph...


lol it had 7 miles on it the first time it saw 96 mph.  On the test drive actually.  evil6

I see your problem: you bought a 2.2 liter vehicle. :haha:
ya ya ya i know... -_-
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2008, 06:11:00 AM »

.s1, I don't want to be a prophet of doom, but that clutch is like the dead parrot sketch , not just resting but deceaced , and you maybe lucky if it is just the clutch , even luckier
if you get the job done for free,it will be obvious to the Mech that it has been abused ,
on the temeperature rise , probably due the the heat from the flywheel being transfered into the engine block, the flywheel was probably glowing red hot at the time ,
and may have blued and distorted and may need changing or machining,
also the rear crankshaft oil seal may have suffered from the heat and needs inspecting/changing  , to save future oil leaks,
just my 2 pennies worth

BTW, to save you asking Smile no you can't borrow one of my cars  evil6
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2008, 06:20:00 AM »

I see your problem: you bought a 2.2 liter vehicle. :haha:

Maybe any vehicle at all  2funny
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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2008, 10:13:44 AM »

I gotta admit if they replace it for free it will be the first I ever heard of it before, or brakes, or tires, etc... wear out items. Not defective.  wink
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2008, 06:03:21 AM »

I gotta admit if they replace it for free it will be the first I ever heard of it before, or brakes, or tires, etc... wear out items. Not defective.  wink
lol ive already had them replace a set of tires, a speaker, guages, dome light , cd player.. all for free covered by GMPP. ( general motors protection plan) . and i have bumper to bumper coverage for the life of the payments on all mechanical parts of the car . i payed 3 grand for that coverage as well as having mechanical breakdown coverage from my insurance co. as well as GAP insurance. .. this S#!tty lil car is covered like fort Knox  :haha:
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