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garlione
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« on: September 24, 2008, 11:38:59 PM »

Hi!
I´m running a hotel and we have a wi-fi-setup that consists of 4 different wireless routers. The incoming broadband we have is quite low and we want to make sure all our guests can surf the web, check and send e-mails och do their business on the web. But it seems like it´s slowing down way to much at some times during the day and I think it´s because some guests use the internet to download stuff through various peer to peer-programs such as torrents and kazaa. How can I fix this problem? Can i close the ports, and if so - how do i do? We have netgear routers.

Thanks in advance!
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2008, 04:53:25 AM »

Sounds like you are biting off more than you can chew.  First thing might be to increase your incoming bandwidth.  Next thing if you can not find the answer hear would be to open the manuals for your routers and read how to get tothe port blocking section.  Next do research on the differnt torrent downloaders.  THese will let you know what ports need forwarding.  These will be the ports that need to be blocked.  Chances are you will run out of spaces for blocking since there are some torrent download programs.  Keep in mind that Comcast tried this and wound up in a whole heap of trouble.  The big differance is you are offering a free service on a private network.  I'm familiar with Linksys, this is why I cannot tell you about Netgear without actually looking at it.
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2008, 04:34:55 PM »

what type of wifi router? and btw you can only block it if someone is using these programs unsecured.
Best thing to do is actually limited each peer bandwidth. you can even give them a ratio of like 15% or something.
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2008, 05:38:30 PM »

Alright a few things... This is just about impossible to do, shutting down p2p apps.   The reason being that most of the applications that are being used today use encryption.  So any type of traffic recognition is not going to work.  If the users are fairly dumb.. you might get them off which is about 10% maybe.   Most of the bit torrent stuff is going to have encryption enabled to begin with.

The most logical solution would be to install something like pfSense or m0n0wall.  (most people know that I am a Smoothwall guy.. I will explain in a minute why I like these two products)  The reason for this is to gain a hold of you network.  Using the same network for both your business transactions and your guests is a really really really ( that is 3 reallys) bad idea.  You really should segment the wireless and the business components to prevent any worms, viruses, etc from your network.   

Now the fun stuff..  I don't know if your users have to accept a User Agreement prior to using the network...  The two products that I recommended will allow you to create a captive portal.  Meaning that prior to giving them access to the Internet they will have to accept your terms.   The other great thing is that if the users are using p2p you can queue their traffic, if it is identifiable. Kazaa and the other non bit torrent should be a little easier to block as they require a specific port to connect to the master servers.

So I would start with looking into those two products... My guess would be that m0n0wall is going to be the way to go due to the captive portal and traffic shaping flexibility.   If you have any more detail on your network that would also help.  You are really not going to be able to do anything with a consumer router.
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