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« on: November 11, 2008, 06:37:21 PM »

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No concept lies more firmly embedded in our national character than the notion that the USA is "No. 1," "the greatest." Our broadcast media are, in essence, continuous advertisements for the brand name "America Is No. 1." Any office seeker saying otherwise would be committing political suicide. In fact, anyone saying otherwise will be labeled "un-American." We're an "empire," ain't we? Sure we are. An empire without a manufacturing base. An empire that must borrow $2 billion a day from its competitors in order to function. Yet the delusion is ineradicable. We're No. 1. Well...this is the country you really live in:

    * The United States is 49th in the world in literacy (the New York Times, Dec. 12, 2004).
    * The United States ranked 28th out of 40 countries in mathematical literacy (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).
    * Twenty percent of Americans think the sun orbits the earth. Seventeen percent believe the earth revolves around the sun once a day (The Week, Jan. 7, 2005).
    * "The International Adult Literacy Survey...found that Americans with less than nine years of education 'score worse than virtually all of the other countries'" (Jeremy Rifkin's superbly documented book The European Dream: How Europe's Vision of the Future Is Quietly Eclipsing the American Dream, p.78).
    * Our workers are so ignorant and lack so many basic skills that American businesses spend $30 billion a year on remedial training (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004). No wonder they relocate elsewhere!
    * "The European Union leads the U.S. in...the number of science and engineering graduates; public research and development (R&D) expenditures; and new capital raised" (The European Dream, p.70).
    * "Europe surpassed the United States in the mid-1990s as the largest producer of scientific literature" (The European Dream, p.70).
    * Nevertheless, Congress cut funds to the National Science Foundation. The agency will issue 1,000 fewer research grants this year (NYT, Dec. 21, 2004).
    * Foreign applications to U.S. grad schools declined 28 percent last year. Foreign student enrollment on all levels fell for the first time in three decades, but increased greatly in Europe and China. Last year Chinese grad-school graduates in the U.S. dropped 56 percent, Indians 51 percent, South Koreans 28 percent (NYT, Dec. 21, 2004). We're not the place to be anymore.
    * The World Health Organization "ranked the countries of the world in terms of overall health performance, and the U.S. [was]...37th." In the fairness of health care, we're 54th. "The irony is that the United States spends more per capita for health care than any other nation in the world" (The European Dream, pp.79-80). Pay more, get lots, lots less.
    * "The U.S. and South Africa are the only two developed countries in the world that do not provide health care for all their citizens" (The European Dream, p.80). Excuse me, but since when is South Africa a "developed" country? Anyway, that's the company we're keeping.
    * Lack of health insurance coverage causes 18,000 unnecessary American deaths a year. (That's six times the number of people killed on 9/11.) (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005.)
    * "U.S. childhood poverty now ranks 22nd, or second to last, among the developed nations. Only Mexico scores lower" (The European Dream, p.81). Been to Mexico lately? Does it look "developed" to you? Yet it's the only "developed" country to score lower in childhood poverty.
    * Twelve million American families--more than 10 percent of all U.S. households--"continue to struggle, and not always successfully, to feed themselves." Families that "had members who actually went hungry at some point last year" numbered 3.9 million (NYT, Nov. 22, 2004).
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    * The United States is 41st in the world in infant mortality. Cuba scores higher (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005).
    * Women are 70 percent more likely to die in childbirth in America than in Europe (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005).
    * The leading cause of death of pregnant women in this country is murder (CNN, Dec. 14, 2004).
    * "Of the 20 most developed countries in the world, the U.S. was dead last in the growth rate of total compensation to its workforce in the 1980s.... In the 1990s, the U.S. average compensation growth rate grew only slightly, at an annual rate of about 0.1 percent" (The European Dream, p.39). Yet Americans work longer hours per year than any other industrialized country, and get less vacation time.
    * "Sixty-one of the 140 biggest companies on the Global Fortune 500 rankings are European, while only 50 are U.S. companies" (The European Dream, p.66). "In a recent survey of the world's 50 best companies, conducted by Global Finance, all but one were European" (The European Dream, p.69).
    * "Fourteen of the 20 largest commercial banks in the world today are European.... In the chemical industry, the European company BASF is the world's leader, and three of the top six players are European. In engineering and construction, three of the top five companies are European.... The two others are Japanese. Not a single American engineering and construction company is included among the world's top nine competitors. In food and consumer products, Nestlé and Unilever, two European giants, rank first and second, respectively, in the world. In the food and drugstore retail trade, two European companies...are first and second, and European companies make up five of the top ten. Only four U.S. companies are on the list" (The European Dream, p.68).
    * The United States has lost 1.3 million jobs to China in the last decade (CNN, Jan. 12, 2005).
    * U.S. employers eliminated 1 million jobs in 2004 (The Week, Jan. 14, 2005).
    * Three million six hundred thousand Americans ran out of unemployment insurance last year; 1.8 million--one in five--unemployed workers are jobless for more than six months (NYT, Jan. 9, 2005).
    * Japan, China, Taiwan, and South Korea hold 40 percent of our government debt. (That's why we talk nice to them.) "By helping keep mortgage rates from rising, China has come to play an enormous and little-noticed role in sustaining the American housing boom" (NYT, Dec. 4, 2004). Read that twice. We owe our housing boom to China, because they want us to keep buying all that stuff they manufacture.
    * Sometime in the next 10 years Brazil will probably pass the U.S. as the world's largest agricultural producer. Brazil is now the world's largest exporter of chickens, orange juice, sugar, coffee, and tobacco. Last year, Brazil passed the U.S. as the world's largest beef producer. (Hear that, you poor deluded cowboys?) As a result, while we bear record trade deficits, Brazil boasts a $30 billion trade surplus (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).
    * As of last June, the U.S. imported more food than it exported (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).
    * Bush: 62,027,582 votes. Kerry: 59,026,003 votes. Number of eligible voters who didn't show up: 79,279,000 (NYT, Dec. 26, 2004). That's more than a third. Way more. If more than a third of Iraqis don't show for their election, no country in the world will think that election legitimate.
    * One-third of all U.S. children are born out of wedlock. One-half of all U.S. children will live in a one-parent house (CNN, Dec. 10, 2004).
    * "Americans are now spending more money on gambling than on movies, videos, DVDs, music, and books combined" (The European Dream, p.28).
    * "Nearly one out of four Americans [believe] that using violence to get what they want is acceptable" (The European Dream, p.32).
    * Forty-three percent of Americans think torture is sometimes justified, according to a PEW Poll (Associated Press, Aug. 19, 2004).
    * "Nearly 900,000 children were abused or neglected in 2002, the last year for which such data are available" (USA Today, Dec. 21, 2004).
    * "The International Association of Chiefs of Police said that cuts by the [Bush] administration in federal aid to local police agencies have left the nation more vulnerable than ever" (USA Today, Nov. 17, 2004).

No. 1? In most important categories we're not even in the Top 10 anymore. Not even close.

The USA is "No. 1" in nothing but weaponry, consumer spending, debt, and delusion.

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Huh.. Well at least we are ALMOST #1 in childhood poverty.. if it werent for that damn Mexico. Of course facts wont matter, Americans are conditioned from birth to think they are the greatest and only ones that really matter.  Rolling Eyes It is delicious how the American people have been taught that socialized medicine is BAD but yet we are ranked SO LOW in the health catagories... infant mortality... life expectancy.. But we are still right..America is ALWAYS right.  2funny
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 07:21:31 PM »

 I thought this S#!t was put on the back burner. Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2008, 07:29:29 PM »

well it not politics...but world facts and numbers...in relation to the USA...where we stand in those areas.

it's actual politics that we've barred...

this is a bunch of interesting numbers...that i sure don't wanna believe...i still love my country...and know there is plenty of room for improvement...
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2008, 07:33:51 PM »

well it not politics...but world facts and numbers...in relation to the USA...where we stand in those areas.

it's actual politics that we've barred...

this is a bunch of interesting numbers...that i sure don't wanna believe...i still love my country...and know there is plenty of room for improvement...

Sure, but it's still the same old USA bashing bullS#!t, telling us how stupid we are, and how we need to be socialistic. Nothing but tripe !
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2008, 07:59:28 PM »

Sure, but it's still the same old USA bashing bullS#!t, telling us how stupid we are, and how we need to be socialistic. Nothing but tripe !
:haha: :haha: :haha: Nothing but tripe? The USA is FILLLLLLLEEEDDDDDDDDDDD with dumbS#!ts that will chant "USA is #1" even  though we do almost nothing but consume. We consume.... and consume... and consume... but produce... F#@& no.. we dont do that S#!t. We are the fat ass AMERICANS that deserve everything because we can kill good.  uglystupid2 uglystupid2 uglystupid2 uglystupid2 And in stupid ass American fasion we think we actually do good for the world... like what?  You want to answer that? If you even think about talking about us "rescuing" the world with our "handouts" I will point out that our handouts are BORROWED from CHINA!!  :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: uglystupid2 uglystupid2 uglystupid2 uglystupid2 Oh, whats that we have a great military... Well Rome did too. Americans... too stupid to even learn from history.

The only thing we have is military and many countries have tried that one before... never worked out well though.


P.S, Prove to me that America is not stupid. Lets use FACTS. FACTS. CAN WE USE FACTS about the past 100 years and see how much good we have done? Its not America hating, its called reality.. Breathe it in. Hell, even FOX NEWS, the repub voice piece is slowing telling you how F#@&ED you are because Americans are STUPID!!!!!  But of course if stupid people could see reality.. we wouldnt have stupid people... would we? You want to post some stats that show we are number one in anything that matters? Nah.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/46MEqEgdLTg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/46MEqEgdLTg</a>

If you believe Obama, a man who isnt even president yet, is responsible for this... well ....your probably an American!!1


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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2008, 08:34:39 PM »

Sure, but it's still the same old USA bashing bullS#!t, telling us how stupid we are, and how we need to be socialistic. Nothing but tripe !

Hmmm, I thought it was a members point of view , ? , by labelling it straight out as tripe  just because you disagree, isn’t going to make it go away  Imho , but then maybe you don't care anyway ?
There are some interesting facts an figures there ,  Ok I agree they all seem to be on the downside , but I am sure America has many things to be proud off ,  so lets hear them ?

I am not sure Europe is the icon portrayed in the articles , but we have been steadily working together over the last 40 odd years , hard to avoid really, as we all rub shoulders daily , maybe that is the difference , you have a vast country and don't travel some much abroad? , maybe that gives America a certain kind of isolation , ? and some in Europe and worldwide see it as arrogance ,   

The obvious work situation comes about from being at the top , you got to keep running to stay ahead ,but eventually  the young dogs get stronger and faster ,
 always been the way of the world ,  and for sure you aren’t going to build cars etc faster and cheaper  ,than those in up and coming countries , but you can lead in wisdom and technology  ( no point in getting older if you don't get wiser ) 

Btw.  had to smile at   * "The International Adult Literacy Survey...found that Americans with less than nine years of education 'score worse than virtually all of the other countries'"
I don’t know about you guys ,I only got 9 years full time edumacation , LOL ,
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2008, 08:49:36 PM »

 You people want to make this place sound like were all so un intelligent that we cant tie our shoes ? 

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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2008, 08:52:28 PM »

I'm smart I buy slip on's! 2funny 2funny 2funny
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2008, 08:53:13 PM »

I'm smart I buy slip on's! 2funny 2funny 2funny
Apparently everyone else isn't.
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2008, 08:59:00 PM »

The janitor asked the banker to talk in math, so he thought about it and said Pi r squared and the janitor said you got to be kidding me everyone knows pie are round! 2funny 2funny 2funny
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2008, 10:56:57 PM »

#1 what the ban should say is no election information. Politics is most of the news that is relevant to our society.  downtown So if someone has brains please do so.  wink

Second the US still is #1 in several things that matter world wide. And I say trade a bushel of it for a barrel of oil. Or kiss our grits.  kiss

The United States is the world's dominant corn exporter, averaging 70 percent of world corn exports during the 1990s.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/corn/trade.htm
And ours is safe, no growth S#!t like china.  evil

Yanno it would be easy enough to rip that pile of crap apart. But I like short cuts. So this guys sources are the New York Times and some book called "The European Dream" and you call many of my sources crap. Shug put that joint down. This is a sad thread to say the least. Ok back to debunking this crap.  evil6

 Who has the best fighting forces in the world? I need no references for this. Especially on Veterans day. WE KICK ASS.

Percentage of the world's coal reserves located in the U.S.:   25%
Coal's percentage of U.S. energy reserves:   90%
Top three coal producers in the world:   China, U.S., India
Top three users of electricity produced by coal:   U.S., China, India
Projected percentage of world fuel consumption represented by coal, 2010:   22.7%
http://www.pbs.org/now/science/coal.html

I am sure there is much more. For real shug, if its so bad why do you bother?

By the way muddy all he is doing is trying to get things kick started here.  wink Its needs a little life breathed into it, since elections got buried.

And Walmart is the biggest importer from china, and why so many are not producing anyway shug, so why aren't you just bashing Walmart instead?? It would make more sense than this silly thread. Get Walmart back to buying American, and Americans buying made in USA again. And you would see a big shift in the economy.


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Bush: 62,027,582 votes. Kerry: 59,026,003 votes. Number of eligible voters who didn't show up: 79,279,000 (NYT, Dec. 26, 2004). That's more than a third. Way more. If more than a third of Iraqis don't show for their election, no country in the world will think that election legitimate.

Apparently, we are #1 in voter apathy. And shug said showing that the US was #1 in anything couldn't be done.  2funny  2funny  2funny

No American likes to hear the sad facts about this country, but the truth is we did it to ourselves. Which is why we don't want to hear it. We allowed and encouraged foreign products to be better than domestic. We funded that, people. Fifty years ago, who owned a foreign car or Japanese made TV? Hell, even Japanese TV's are a thing of the past because we wanted cheaper instead of better. So now they are made in Malaysia and other third world countries because that's what we wanted. We don't seem to mind that the products we buy are pieces of plastic crap, just as long as we can line up outside Best Buy at 3 A.M. on the morning after Thanksgiving to buy a $30 DVD player.

America. The land of opportunity ......... for other countries to make money. 
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2008, 11:20:06 AM »

Not to mention the absurd trade agreements we have, that have come about because of our foreign debt.  A good example would be the auto industry.  You would have pay out the ass to get an American car in Japan, but their cars are sold freely here.

Also, Asian car companies don't have to provide nearly as much benefits to their employees as US car companies do.  I think the last figure I heard was 1500/per car just in health benefits.  Not that I think providing benefits is a bad thing, I just think they should get tax credits to help support it....

I would like to add though, that Toyota and Honda built their name on quality.  Another thing was brand consolidation.  Toyota only has 2 divisions, Toy, and Lexus.  GM has 5 or more.  Ford has 3 or more, and both have purchased European brands.  American automobile makers have F#@&ed themselves.
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2008, 12:08:59 PM »

since elections got buried.


lordy...u still pouting 'bout that...the election is over...now find a way to support the winner...and make the best of it...hahaha smile huny...we could live somewhere else where it ain't so grand...like somewhere where the women can get stoned to death for showing their face or getting their hair done...live, love, laugh and be happy.

which reminds me...have u heard that women that have to hide their faces in the name of religion, can get their drivers license picture taken with their burka on...i saw it...with my own eyes (u shoulda seen the commotion)...thought i was gonna puke...what a load of S#!t...so if i go in dressed as jesse james with a bandanna over my face and claim it's in the name of religion i can get my pic like that??? whatta crock...talk about tripe...how does an officer know if it's her or not?? i forgot about this til now...who do i complain to??
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2008, 12:31:01 PM »

You people want to make this place sound like were all so un intelligent that we cant tie our shoes ? 

edit spelling...so shoot me

spelling  knuppel2 , oh right  evil6,  shoot you ?  no need , the pen is mighter than the bullet , Laughing  .

Cars , computers,cameras , hi fi's, the list is endless , it all comes down to consumer choice ,and the $$ in the pocket , concience is slow of the starting block for most folk ,
indeed it is wrong that the folk don't have the welfare and security that is given in the west , but the counter argument is they are developing countries , same as America was 100 years back , if you don't buy from the sweat shops , they will not move on to more liberated ways ,  




which reminds me...have u heard that women that have to hide their faces in the name of religion, can get their drivers license picture taken with their burka on...i saw it...with my own eyes (u shoulda seen the commotion)...thought i was gonna puke...what a load of S#!t...so if i go in dressed as jesse james with a bandanna over my face and claim it's in the name of religion i can get my pic like that??? whatta crock...talk about tripe...how does an officer know if it's her or not?? i forgot about this til now...who do i complain to??


 Laughing we have a female muslim comedian in the UK ,. ( she is very good ) , who loves the Burka ,
She and her 4 sisters use her OAP mothers free travel travel pass ,  Laughing
but the upside is they don't have 30% of mothers being single problem  and drawing state aid ,










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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2008, 12:40:09 PM »

spelling  knuppel2 , oh right  evil6,  shoot you ?  no need , the pen is mighter than the bullet , Laughing  .

yes someone's gotta watch the spelling round here... Smile

Cars , computers,cameras , hi fi's, the list is endless , it all comes down to consumer choice ,and the $$ in the pocket , concience is slow of the starting block for most folk ,
indeed it is wrong that the folk don't have the welfare and security that is given in the west , but the counter argument is they are developing countries , same as America was 100 years back , if you don't buy from the sweat shops , they will not move on to more liberated ways ,  

well that's one way of seeing it...but maybe they could raise the wage a bit...and increase the quality...and maybe we could do the same...and not so so much outsourcing
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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2008, 01:09:24 PM »

yes someone's gotta watch the spelling round here... Smile

well that's one way of seeing it...but maybe they could raise the wage a bit...and increase the quality...and maybe we could do the same...and not so so much outsourcing
Wages , LOL , no chance , the inport agent ( western )is making all the $$$$,
The far East didn't sell in the west without the western inporter , he is the true evil guy  Twisted Evil , screwed the East and sold out the West ,

quality ! , the Hoda car is more reliable than our Rolls Royce , and a fraction of the cost ,
My last puter build is 90% Chinese , same as Dell , H.P. etc,
Times are a changing , I don't like change , but I can feel the ireversible winds of change , trying to hold onto the good old ways , was the  what the dinosaur did ,
maybe a harsh view and mine alone ,
 Hey I am/was as an engineer in Europe ,I loved building things, and took pride in my work , just a simple nuts and bolts guy ,
those days for me are long past , it took me about 5 years to get over the fact that I wasn't needed anymore as a worker ,I was high maintainance $$$$ , maybe ? this is now being felt in America ? ,

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Tommie bro , your quote "Second the US still is #1 in several things that matter world wide. And I say trade a bushel of it for a barrel of oil. Or kiss our grits.  ,
If you could change Grits  to GIRLS . I would be right behind you Bro,  yeah, I get easy distracted ,














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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2008, 01:26:15 PM »

I would like to add though, that Toyota and Honda built their name on quality. .

Actually, the first Honda's they sent here were little pieces of crap but they used the money they made to develop a better product.
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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2008, 01:44:27 PM »

Actually, the first Honda's they sent here were little pieces of crap but they used the money they made to develop a better product.
we had the same problem in the UK , the Honda 600 coupe , the spark plugs blew out out the head ,  but they learnt , and moved on to better things ,
something the UK car industry couldn't do , now we don't have one ,
I run 2 cars ( 5 including my family  Evil or Very Mad)  one of mine is GM, the other is French
for the fuel economy and street cred in the UK , it's now 34 years old and does 50 MPG
but it takes me about 8 hours a month in servicing time, the GM is once a year for me ,
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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2008, 04:23:34 PM »

I'm smart I buy slip on's! 2funny 2funny 2funny
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: 2funny 2funny 2funny 2funny 2funny I laughed so F#@&ing hard at that.  2funny 2funny 2funny

yes someone's gotta watch the spelling round here... Smile

well that's one way of seeing it...but maybe they co