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« on: July 02, 2009, 07:17:21 PM »

Check this out!!!!!


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/thR-lVuztIY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/thR-lVuztIY</a>
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2009, 07:26:22 PM »

 Well get used to it. No one want to believe it, and they dont care, the ones that do, will be shot dead in the streets. By the very people that are defending this country right now.  Watch.
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2009, 08:56:19 PM »

I hate to say this but it is partly jealously also.

She is upset that the president has power out of the congresses reach and it has her steamed. Granted that is the way the government was supposed to work, but also to tell the truth I did not trust congress anymore anyway either. So pretty much the kettle calling the kettle black.

But I also agree that the gov't should not own business.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2009, 09:37:21 PM »

OH lordy, just read this one. WTF?

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Senate bill fines people refusing health coverage

WASHINGTON – Americans who refuse to buy affordable medical coverage could be hit with fines of more than $1,000 under a health care overhaul bill unveiled Thursday by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.

The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fines will raise around $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals.

In a revamped health care system envisioned by lawmakers, people would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now. The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families, but those who still refuse to sign up would face penalties.

Called "shared responsibility payments," the fines would be set at least at half the cost of basic medical coverage, according to the legislation. The goal is to nudge people to sign up for coverage when they are healthy, not wait until they get sick.

In 2008, employer-provided coverage averaged $12,680 a year for a family plan, and $4,704 for individual coverage, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation's annual survey. Senate aides, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, said the cost of the federal plan would be lower but declined to provide specifics.

The legislation would exempt certain hardship cases from fines. The fines would be collected through the income tax system.

The new proposals were released as Congress neared the end of a weeklong July 4 break, with lawmakers expected to quickly take up health care legislation when they return to Washington. With deepening divisions along partisan and ideological lines, the complex legislation faces an uncertain future.

Obama wants a bill this year that would provide coverage to the nearly 50 million Americans who lack it and reduce medical costs.

In a statement, Obama welcomed the legislation, saying it "reflects many of the principles I've laid out, such as reforms that will prohibit insurance companies from refusing coverage for people with pre-existing conditions and the concept of insurance exchanges where individuals can find affordable coverage if they lose their jobs, move or get sick."

The Senate Health Education, Labor and Pensions bill also calls for a government-run insurance option to compete with private plans as well as a $750-per-worker annual fee on larger companies that do not offer coverage to employees.

Sens. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., and Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., said in a letter to colleagues that their revised plan would cost dramatically less than an earlier, incomplete proposal, and help show the way toward coverage for 97 percent of all Americans.

In a conference call with reporters, Dodd said the revised bill had brought "historic reform of health care" closer. He said the bill's public option will bring coverage and benefit decisions driven "not by what generates the biggest profits, but by what works best for American families."

The Congressional Budget Office, in an analysis released Thursday evening, put the net cost of the proposal at $597 billion over 10 years, down from $1 trillion two weeks ago. Coverage expansions worth $645 billion would be partly offset by savings of $48 billion, the estimate said.

However, the total cost of legislation will rise considerably once provisions are added to subsidize health insurance for the poor through Medicaid. Those additions, needed to ensure coverage for nearly all U.S. residents, are being handled by a separate panel, the Senate Finance Committee. Bipartisan talks on the Finance panel aim to hold the overall price tag to $1 trillion.

The Health Committee could complete its portion of the bill as soon as next week, and the presence of a government health insurance option virtually assures a party-line vote.

In the Senate, the Finance Committee version of the bill is unlikely to include a government-run insurance option. Bipartisan negotiations are centered on a proposal for a nonprofit insurance cooperative as a competitor to private companies.

Three committees are collaborating in the House on legislation expected to come to a vote by the end of July. That measure is certain to include a government-run insurance option.

At their heart, all the bills would require insurance companies to sell coverage to any applicant, without charging higher premiums for pre-existing medical conditions. The poor and some middle-class families would qualify for government subsidies to help with the cost of coverage. The government's costs would be covered by a combination of higher taxes and cuts in projected Medicare and Medicaid spending.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090703/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_overhaul

So now they create a new health insurance and are capable of making us pay for it??  tickedoff

I say we get rid of the wicked witch soon. Someone pour some water on his butt.  angry

I would love for one of those Obama lovers like Matt Frog explain how ths is supposed to help the economy. And yet the poor still get free coverage. Beginning of the end. Middle of the end. And no slowing dow.
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2009, 11:16:00 PM »

start the first video at 6 minutes as it was from 2007 but specifically at 6:50 is where he says what i agree with "this country is finished"
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/2UVXj8F9Fmk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/2UVXj8F9Fmk</a>
and here is another more comical, yet very true clip
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/hWiBt-pqp0E" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/hWiBt-pqp0E</a>

yes carlin is a hero to me.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2009, 11:24:25 PM »

Yeah, nothing would surprise me with Obama in office. 

Carlin is right about "Temporary Privileges" .........now about God, I cannot agree.  oh so nerdly!
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2009, 12:54:56 AM »

I'll say he talks like a politician as he twists great jokes out.  Laughing

And no I do not agree with his ideas a whole lot this time. Maybe 1/3 of them.
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