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« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2008, 07:41:33 AM »

Yes I have 2 linksys routers and a workswitch
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« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2008, 07:49:34 AM »

 Sounds as if your savvy about networking so setting up your network as below should be no issue for you, then we'll get the QOS implemented.  Can you show me the exact layout of your network right now?

                 
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« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2008, 09:09:43 AM »

So I have 4 cat5 ports at my main hub all of which are directly hooked to the DSL and to 4 other cat 5 switches located in different areas of the room. Each one of the ports from the main hub has a wire that goes to the linksysrouters. The vonage routers are also hooked up to the linksys routers. There seems to be a fair amount of looping from router to router. There is quite a maze of wires there, but let me know what I should do next.
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« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2008, 09:40:10 AM »

 Did you set this up yourself?    I ask because I really would like not to have you dismantle this thing to re route , and then have you stuck w/ a pile of wires and no access to the net. Once you start  this , you have to be able to re connect things , and configure them properly. I will say this is what I would do, and if you chose to delve into it or not, I'll respect it.


 
                        QOS on max port 1              Line 1 & 2        Fax (Or where the numbers are on the ports) Make sure before removing
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  Modem>  Router (DHCP on) >>  port 1 >>>  Voip router >>>> Voip router
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   Switch or other router w/ DHCP off                 DHCP Off             DHCP Off
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  Does this look possible?


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« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2008, 12:37:31 PM »

I may be willing to try, can't do it today as we are leaving shortly, but I have a few questions What is the QOS tat goes on max port 1 and how do I know which one is max port 1? What is DHCP and how do I turn them on and off? I have to admit that I am a bit nervous about unplugging wires and then have my system down. I had an IT person hook things up, but he is no longer available. Once you answer my questions I will see how brave I am Thanks
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« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2008, 02:17:54 PM »

I may be willing to try, can't do it today as we are leaving shortly, but I have a few questions What is the QOS tat goes on max port 1 and how do I know which one is max port 1? What is DHCP and how do I turn them on and off? I have to admit that I am a bit nervous about unplugging wires and then have my system down. I had an IT person hook things up, but he is no longer available. Once you answer my questions I will see how brave I am Thanks
QOS ~ quality of service.     So that that port, or that plug in the back of the router that the device is plugged into will be configured for priority bandwidth when open.

 DHCP ~Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (protocol for automating the configuration of tcpip)  So that when the network card asks for an address, the server gives it an address in the form of numbers, or octets  (ie: 127.0.0.1 local host ) so the packets or data knows where to go, kinda like a street sign, or your house address , so the postman knows where to deliver mail.

 The router by default turns on the DHCP server, before we do this, we will walk through the router gui ( graphical user interface)   which on the linksys you have they shoud belocated at 192.168.15.1 or 192.168.1.1 so understanding what is going to happen, allows things to happen. All configuration will be done in this manner.

 The modem will be located at 192.168.100.1 There's not much you should do here, especially since you have DSL, there is sometimes many settings that can turn your connection into mush. But you could still reset them to the defaults.

 Before doing anything, take tape of some kind to write on, or if by any chance you have those little number stickies that are used to wrap around the wires to identify what they are connected to. Masking tape works well when nothing else is available. Note down everything , and the placement of everything. Making sure you know what goes where by numbers or by names , whatever works for you. Look into the router configuration, and make a few notes as to the settings, just be meticulous, and if all fails, you can just return things to where they were originally. If in doubt , don't change settings.
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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2008, 07:01:14 AM »

I've decided to tackle this one wire at a time so as not to get things too screwed up. I stand corrected from yesterday, I do have a paradyne modem supplied by my ISP. There is a wire that goes from that modem and hooks into the internet plug of the 1st router. The #1 port of that router has a wire that goes to the #1 port of the 2nd router.My question is should the vonage devices go into the 2ND & 3rd ports of the 2nd router for maximum bandwidth?
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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2008, 08:58:50 AM »

I've decided to tackle this one wire at a time so as not to get things too screwed up. I stand corrected from yesterday, I do have a paradyne modem supplied by my ISP. There is a wire that goes from that modem and hooks into the internet plug of the 1st router. The #1 port of that router has a wire that goes to the #1 port of the 2nd router.My question is should the vonage devices go into the 2ND & 3rd ports of the 2nd router for maximum bandwidth?
  Just take some time to "map out" the wires, get familiar w/ the router interfaces at the links below, and take notes on what you find, only when you feel  100% confident to get into this you should continue.

The port QOS is set in the router itself , so it really doesn't matter, personally, I put the highest needed device on port 1.
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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2008, 09:04:42 AM »

I've spent some time this morning on the Linksys website and I'm learning a whole new language. Our conversations are making more sense now. It appears the 1st router is the wireless and I typed that address in my toolbar and was able to see the set up there. I can't seem to find the 2nd router to turn off the DHCP. It is turned on in the 1st router.
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« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2008, 09:12:45 AM »

I've spent some time this morning on the Linksys website and I'm learning a whole new language. Our conversations are making more sense now. It appears the 1st router is the wireless and I typed that address in my toolbar and was able to see the set up there. I can't seem to find the 2nd router to turn off the DHCP. It is turned on in the 1st router.
OK good for you for reading up, no really many people just want to jump in then get freaked out  lol.

 You should be able to log into the 1st router as you say is the wireless, and look under the client list to see the live IP addresses, I can't give you a screenshot, I am running dd wrt on my wireless. Just get a bit more familiar by looking a bit deeper into the setup , and you'll find the addressees.
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« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2008, 10:53:37 AM »

I do believe something is not setup correctly. I found the DHCP active IP table and I am showing 5 device on there. The wireless router ends in .100 I believe the next router should be 101 and then the computers are 102,103,&104. When I try to ping 101 and 104 I have 100% packet loss and when I try to trace 101 & 104 the come up as untraceable. This potentiall could be adding to my troubles
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« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2008, 11:08:15 AM »

I do believe something is not setup correctly. I found the DHCP active IP table and I am showing 5 device on there. The wireless router ends in .100 I believe the next router should be 101 and then the computers are 102,103,&104. When I try to ping 101 and 104 I have 100% packet loss and when I try to trace 101 & 104 the come up as untraceable. This potentiall could be adding to my troubles
OK it doesn't really work in a way that the numbers are given out in consecutive order. Lets say comp #1 -4 are on. You shut down, that ip goes back to the pool, you startt up the machine again, the IP wil be pulled from the pool within the parameters set within the router range, this also applies to any router  you may have .

 The reason you can't ping certain IP's may very well be that you have them stemming from a router that does not allow to be pinged, and or the machine specific firewall settings .
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« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2008, 11:11:41 AM »

Any suggestions how I can pull up the other router then to disable the DCHP. I can't seem to find an ip address that will pull it up. The only one I can pull up is the wireless that is hooked to the modem
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« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2008, 11:20:37 AM »

Any suggestions how I can pull up the other router then to disable the DCHP. I can't seem to find an ip address that will pull it up. The only one I can pull up is the wireless that is hooked to the modem
That must be the first one in the network right? the router you can access?    If you have the second router connected off the first one, and any devices off the second, it will be turned off, otherwise you would have no connection to the device connected to the second router due to a possible IP conflict.

 You can do that , if necessary, by connectiong  directly to the router you wish to turn DHCP off and typing 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.15.1or 192.168.0.1 or so on.


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« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2008, 11:50:14 AM »

Yes that is correct The router I can pull up has the address of 192.168.1.1
In checking the IP address of my computers, 2 of them have addresses of 102 &103 assigne by DHCP. The 3rd computer has an ip addresses of 192.168.120 manually configured. That leaves 101 & 104 unaccounted for, I assume one those is the other router.
So back to my original VOIP problem. If I am looking at your diagram correctly.
I should hook up the ISP modem to the internet connection and then have a wire go from port 1 on the wireless to port 1 on the other router. I should then hook my VOIP devices to port 2 and port 3 of the other router to get maximum bandwidth on those devises. Does that make sense?
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